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Question about Absolute nothingness

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Where would absolute nothingness thats beyond time space conceptuality and a realm that lacks conceptuality, being ,and nonbeing scale as the absolute pinnacle where everything emerges and returns to in a verse scale
 
Teach1121 said:
Where would absolute nothingness thats beyond time space conceptuality and a realm that lacks conceptuality, being ,and nonbeing scale as the absolute pinnacle where everything emerges and returns to in a verse scale
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Absolute nothingness would be only 11-C,L1-A or 1-A

To these feats its not 0D definetly. And being above concepts of space and time is normally 5D but in this scan its 1-A
 
Could be High 1-A+ jugging off that last statement if it's akin to something like Brahman
 
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Teach1121 said:
Its pretty similar its more similar to korean wu I think is the name is maeguk on top of my head. Not wuji but their version of it
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Not familiar with it, but If it doesn't stray too far from how Wuji is originally conceptualized, it would be High 1-A+

Though if we go solely off how you defined it, it would be 1-A, the way you ended it off made me think off Brahman and Pralaya, which is High 1-A+, but It would have to explicitly be unmanifested potential and not just literal nothingness for the High 1-A+ rating
 
For it to be something like Wuji it would have to be both nothing and everything simultaneously, since processes of arising and cessation are all phenomenological illusions
 
Super_Nova said:
For it to be something like Wuji it would have to be both nothing and everything simultaneously, since processes of arising and cessation are all phenomenological illusions
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Now I know the Dao is typically tier 0 here, but if there's some antifeats, and assuming that most statements are taken straight from the scriptures, what tier would it be?
 
Super_Nova said:
For it to be something like Wuji it would have to be both nothing and everything simultaneously, since processes of arising and cessation are all phenomenological illusions
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I'll try to phrase( as simplistic as possible) this but it is eternal nothingness independent of its byproducts and a qualtive difference from its byproducts (direct statement from the series) ->

which later the universe itself was a manifestation of it ,as conscioness which is also the totality of reality ->

which later gave birth to the natural order and the foundational forces the eternal flows of becoming and cessation->

then the principle of existence that sustains all existence of which gives birth to being/existence/soul the very identity of a person etc ->

everything else

Theirs quite a bit more but its ight
 
Teach1121 said:
I'll try to phrase( as simplistic as possible) this but it is eternal nothingness independent of its byproducts and a qualtive difference from its byproducts (direct statement from the series) ->

which later the universe itself was a manifestation of it ,as conscioness which is also the totality of reality ->

which later gave birth to the natural order and the foundational forces the eternal flows of becoming and cessation->

then the principle of existence that sustains all existence of which gives birth to being/existence/soul the very identity of a person etc ->

everything else

Theirs quite a bit more but its ight
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I mean. There’s 1-A potential sure
 
Teach1121 said:
Where would absolute nothingness thats beyond time space conceptuality and a realm that lacks conceptuality, being ,and nonbeing scale as the absolute pinnacle where everything emerges and returns to in a verse scale
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It either wouldn't scale to anything or in the best case scenario High 1-A+.

Lacking something is not the same as being superior to something. Not having time, space, or concepts is ultimately meaningless as a qualifiers because of it.

But the patt about all things emerging from it and returning to it, depending on the surroundings context of this series, could be theoretically argued as High 1-A+ or 0. But it's would need to clear a bunch of hurdles first evidence wise.
 
Super_Nova said:
“Transcend the Dao” 🤭
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For reference, if something transcends the Dao that would mean the franchise wouldn't follow accepted Taoism in this wiki. So it would invalidate Taoism as a Tier 0 ot High 1-A+ argument.

The Eternal Tao, to the best of my understanding, would qualify as Tier 0 on the wiki. Or at least High 1-A+.
 
Qawsedf234 said:
It either wouldn't scale to anything or in the best case scenario High 1-A+.

Lacking something is not the same as being superior to something. Not having time, space, or concepts is ultimately meaningless as a qualifiers because of it.

But the patt about all things emerging from it and returning to it, depending on the surroundings context of this series, could be theoretically argued as High 1-A+ or 0. But it's would need to clear a bunch of hurdles first evidence wise.
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I appreciate the response. I'm currently working on some right now for it and it is in fact superior to everything as the omnipotence/almighty/eternal etc thing in the verse that is completely unsurpassible
 
Qawsedf234 said:
For reference, if something transcends the Dao that would mean the franchise wouldn't follow accepted Taoism in this wiki. So it would invalidate Taoism as a Tier 0 ot High 1-A+ argument.
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Even if it's basically copy pasted from Dao scriptures? Does transcending the Dao specifically, or it as a H1-A+ thing, disqualify it? I know it disqualifies tier 0, but idk much about H1-A+.
 
Lycoris4812 said:
Even if it's basically copy pasted from Dao scriptures
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If its copied pasted from Dao scriptures, then they wouldn't have made that mistake. The Eternal Dao isn't something you can transcend, it's source of all things that reality emanates from. You can't transcend it while remaining true with Daoist teachings.

Lycoris4812 said:
Does transcending the Dao specifically, or it as a H1-A+ thing, disqualify it? I know it disqualifies tier 0, but idk much about H1-A+.
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It would also disqualify High 1-A+. You would need to show the Eternal Dao within the work fits the criteria without any IRL assumptions, which is difficult to prove.

It's why most works based on the Abrahamic God don't qualify as Tier 0. They break critical scripture that would make a Monad like YHWH a Tier 0.
 
I know it's for Social Justice Warrior, I just can't prove it.

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