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Qin Shi Huang vs Kaido

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Kazuma_kuwabara said:
What are you smoking? Explain how this works please
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This strain of weed called "One Piece"

Kaido is above the shit Qin can use to actually attack, and is unlikely to make him feel threatened, so it's possible for Kaido to basically talk Qin into losing or vice versa
 
DaReaperMan said:
Kaido is above the shit Qin can use to actually attack
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Range: Unknown physically, Varies from Tens of Meters to Planetary with abilities | Standard Melee Range physically, likely Hundreds of Meters with projectiles (Should be comparable to servants capable of utilizing projectiles), up to Planetary

Low Complex Multiverse level, possibly Complex Multiverse level (Qin Shi Huang's Holy Vessel was considered to be impossible to beat by Chaldea, and considered far stronger then his Xian Huaman form

I don´t understand the profile then
 
DaReaperMan said:
This strain of weed called "One Piece"

Kaido is above the shit Qin can use to actually attack, and is unlikely to make him feel threatened, so it's possible for Kaido to basically talk Qin into losing or vice versa
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So Kaido's wincon is diplomacy?
 
Kazuma_kuwabara said:
Range: Unknown physically, Varies from Tens of Meters to Planetary with abilities | Standard Melee Range physically, likely Hundreds of Meters with projectiles (Should be comparable to servants capable of utilizing projectiles), up to Planetary

Low Complex Multiverse level, possibly Complex Multiverse level (Qin Shi Huang's Holy Vessel was considered to be impossible to beat by Chaldea, and considered far stronger then his Xian Huaman form

I don´t understand the profile then
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Basically, Qin has little way to actually physically attack anything, and what he can do it with are all High 6-C to Low 6-B, it's from back when lower didn't exist
 
LordGinSama said:
Or better yet:



Stop making matches against haxeless tier 6's against tier 1 characters? What your doing here is like giving a 90 year old granny with dementia a nerf foam sword and telling them to go fight Prime Mike Tyson.
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Well granny technically wins since Tyson gets arrested for beating an old lady up.
 
LordGinSama said:
Or better yet:



Stop making matches against haxeless tier 6's against tier 1 characters? What your doing here is like giving a 90 year old granny with dementia a nerf foam sword and telling them to go fight Prime Mike Tyson.
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But it'd be funny to have this match on their profiles
 
Trust me, it isn't exactly how it looks.
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It is exactly what it look, a tier 1 vs a tier 6, and different from the Albedo vs Olivia thread here genuinely speaking can't be argued that the non tier 1 character could do something as Qin Shi Huang LS (and combat speed) is immesurable so the move him away, besides the fact that while physically immobile (which is actually debatable since he could float above the capital) he is actually capable of doing things (send parts of the great wall in space, use his subjects which include servants, sealing, use his Zhenren body, and likely many more things we didn't get to see in the Lostbelt like a not friendly use of his biochemistry arts though at the end that friendly use of him was with the purpose of kill humans when he desired).

Besides the very special circunstances in the Lostbelt (the whole situation of the Chronicle Theoretical Phenomenon) that lead to him having a change of heart, he also needed to confront an old acquaitance (aka Jin Ke whose beauty cautivated him even when he was still a normal human) and Ritsuka (aka the ************ who consistently befriend absolute monsters of humanity and convince tier 1 beings to fist fight or **** him), and this change of heart only lead to him using a tier 1 humanoid body to fist fight, so no matter how you look at it Kaido really can't do anything here.
 
DaReaperMan said:
Uh the **** it doesn't! That shit is High 6-C at best!
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It's also stated that Qin Shi Huang could smite Chaldea whenever he wants, and he nearly did with the Great Wall if not for Spartacus's interference

before you say Spartacus is only High 6C, Crying Warmonger is specifically designed to become stronger depending on how strong the attack he's counterattacking is, meaning he buffed himself to Low 1C in order to stop it.

Before you say that that's a stretch, several other servants in the series have launched Low 1C attack at the cost of their own life, like Arash did in the Sixth Singularity in order to stop Tituria's attacks. This shouldn't be treated as any different

Not to mention, think about it: If Qin Shi Huang was literally just an immovable blob who could only use High 6C attacks, Chaldea would have never felt threatened in the first place since they have their own Low 1Cs. Chaldea explicitly stated that Qin Shi Huang, as well as Lostbelt 4 as a whole, was the strongest force they faced at the time, which would include the likes of Scathach Skadi, who's Low 1C by herself, Surter, who can stomp Skadi, and Ivan, who's also Low 1C. If Qin without his human body is only capable of launching High 6C Attacks then none of his statements would make any sense
 
Mickey1940 said:
It's also stated that Qin Shi Huang could smite Chaldea whenever he wants, and he nearly did with the Great Wall if not for Spartacus's interference

before you say Spartacus is only High 6C, Crying Warmonger is specifically designed to become stronger depending on how strong the attack he's counterattacking is, meaning he buffed himself to Low 1C in order to stop it.

Before you say that that's a stretch, several other servants in the series have launched Low 1C attack at the cost of their own life, like Arash did in the Sixth Singularity in order to stop Tituria's attacks. This shouldn't be treated as any different

Not to mention, think about it: If Qin Shi Huang was literally just an immovable blob who could only use High 6C attacks, Chaldea would have never felt threatened in the first place since they have their own Low 1Cs. Chaldea explicitly stated that Qin Shi Huang, as well as Lostbelt 4 as a whole, was the strongest force they faced at the time, which would include the likes of Scathach Skadi, who's Low 1C by herself, Surter, who can stomp Skadi, and Ivan, who's also Low 1C. If Qin without his human body is only capable of launching High 6C Attacks then none of his statements would make any sense
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I was literally the one who MADE QSH's profile, the great wall isn't Low 1-C, and a quick read over of Spartacus' profile would tell you this.
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Berserker of "Red" is the Berserker-class Servant of the Red Faction in the Great Holy Grail War of Fate/Apocrypha. It is unknown which of the five puppet Masters of the Red Faction first summoned him, and unlike the rest who eventually become the Servants of Shirou Kotomine, he forms a contract...
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Speaking as the guy who MADE QSH's profile with a wee bit of help, yes, Holy Vessel is pretty much a brick who likes to talk because he's got no proof of attacking with his tier 1 bod. If threatened Xian Human comes out.

And no, Chaldea had a grand total of 0 Low 1-Cs with them at the time by our profiles, if you want to scale Mash to Low 1-C, be my guest, but that's a slippery slope to say the least.
 
As the guy who helped with the creation of the profile, to the point of basically add most of the stuff in the profile, I will repit this:
Expectro2000xxx said:
It is exactly what it look, a tier 1 vs a tier 6
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Furthermore, with the current state of Nasuverse in general he would be considered a smurf even if in his canonically weaker tier 6 key, so this is really a match in which Kaido just get stomped over tier 1 stuff. Will ask for this to be closed, also.
Mickey1940 said:
Qin Shi Huang's standard equipment includes his army, which scales to him

he still can attack Kaido
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Don't necro a match almost a year dead, the rules actually even states how isn't recommendable to necro a thread more than 3 months old.
 
DaReaperMan said:
As a Servant yeah lol
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Then yeah OP vs Fate doesn't work which is unfortunate since there's a lot of cool matchups. Like I really loved Luffy vs assassin of Black.

Tbh could always just do this on a F&G board and equalized dimensionality. Kaidou vs a few Berserkers would be sick.
 
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