Protege vs madoka for top 5 2-as.

[Westcoast5005]

Protege

The Protege

The Protege is a cosmic entity, the childlike ruler of the Universal Church of Truth in the 31st century of Earth-691. In order to save the lives of the Guardians of the Galaxy, the Skrull shapeshifter Replica left them to give herself as a playmate to Protege, her god. However, she comes into...

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Madoka

Madoka Kaname

Madoka Kaname (鹿目 まどか, Kaname Madoka) is the main protagonist of Puella Magi Madoka Magica. She is a gentle and kind girl who lives a normal life, has a happy life, surrounded by a good family and good friends. One day, she has a dream in which a mysterious girl fights a monster. The next day...

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[OriginFox]

Can Protege interact with type 5 acasual beings? And I'm pretty sure Madoka just passively kill him or incap him. Not voting yet though.

 

[Confluctor]

Following

 

[Sevil Natas]

from what i know about protege, his power mimcry is passive and it works on Low 1-A beings, so whats stopping him from taking all of her power for himself?

 

[Confluctor]

That's what I was thinking too. But I don't get powers like acausality so waiting for the other side to put down their points.

 

[Bernkastelll]

I dunno if protege can interact with acausal 5 beings

 

[Sevil Natas]

I dunno if protege can interact with acausal 5 beings

i think he could after all his power works on the abstracts which would include the chaos king

 

[Bernkastelll]

i think he could after all his power works on the abstracts which would include the chaos king

Then he should stomp

 

[Confluctor]

Protege is the definition of NLF in Marvel.

Also, can someone explain how her acausality can stop him from copying her power?

 

[Dereck03]

That poor NLF dude can't copy NEP2 so UKG erases

 

[Bernkastelll]

Also, can someone explain how her acausality can stop him from copying her power?

It doesnt, as he can affect acausality 5, but if he didnt had feats, we shouldnt assume that he can affect with acausal 5 beings, as they are transcendental to stuff like cause and effect, which means that copying her powers is a cause and Madoka being copied is the effect, and it wouldnt work, unless someone argue about higher D hax working in lower D acausal, but idk if there is a pre-definition to it

 

[Confluctor]

Interesting. Thanks

 

[OriginFox]

Wait is protege power mimicry passive? If not then I don't see how he would deal with Madoka erasing, sealing, etc. Most being passive. Madoka also seems to have a higher AP so she pretty much just one shots before Protégé can copy her powers, assuming it isn't passive ofc.

 

[Confluctor]

Yeah it's passive


Also, how high into 2-A is she? Cause Protege should scale well above Beyonder and post retcon MM.

 

[Delta333]

Change to UKG and she will passively stomp Protege

 

[Bernkastelll]

Due the fact that UKG is far above baseline NEP 2, she should stomp

 

[Delta333]

Actually because Protege doesn't have any resistance on profile while UKG has ton of passives,even when her passives get copied she can still resist all of her passives so yeah

 

[Westcoast5005]

For acausulity type 5 protege was able to affect living tribunal who Said to transcends casualty and acausulity.

 

[OriginFox]

Yeah it's passive


Also, how high into 2-A is she? Cause Protege should scale well above Beyonder and post retcon MM.

I see

on protege page it seems he has no resistance so Madoka just stands and wins via her passives

 

[Confluctor]

Oh this is most definitely a stomp, I don't think with his current file he can win against anyone tbh. - well anyone with good hax

I need to revise him. Soo many to revise oof

 

[Westcoast5005]

It's not about resistance has protege passively copies attacks then they have no effect on him.

 

[Bernkastelll]

Oh this is most definitely a stomp, I don't think with his current file he can win against anyone tbh. - well anyone with good hax

I need to revise him. Soo many to revise oof

Marvel supporters currently are being too busy with their profiles huh?

 

[Confluctor]

Which is why I said he is NLF af, but we need to stick to what's on the file or else he never loses

 

[Confluctor]

Marvel supporters currently are being too busy with their profiles huh?

Yeah got so much shit to revise lol. And so many more to make

 

[Delta333]

I suggest using UKG for strongest 2-A PMMM

Also what is reason for his immeasurable speed? It said that his speed compared to Beyonder Post Retcon but there is no reason for immeasurable speed of Beyonder

 

[Westcoast5005]

Which is why I said he is NLF af, but we need to stick to what's on the file or else he never loses

It's not nlf as he as feats doing so like when he copied Lt powers none of his abilities worked on protege.

 

[Westcoast5005]

Wait what is madoka win con

 

[Delta333]

Also what is reason for his immeasurable speed? It said that his speed compared to Beyonder Post Retcon but there is no reason for immeasurable speed of Beyonder

 

[Confluctor]

Something something scaling chain.


He is also on my list to revise

 

[Delta333]

Which scaling chain?

 

[Westcoast5005]

It doesnt, as he can affect acausality 5, but if he didnt had feats, we shouldnt assume that he can affect with acausal 5 beings, as they are transcendental to stuff like cause and effect, which means that copying her powers is a cause and Madoka being copied is the effect, and it wouldnt work, unless someone argue about higher D hax working in lower D acausal, but idk if there is a pre-definition to it

This isn't totally correct has protege can copy the ability of every body in marvel maybe with exception of toaa. As he is connected to the source of the powers.

 

[Confluctor]

Which scaling chain?

Idk. That's why I said that. Its an outdated profile too

 

[Bernkastelll]

This isn't totally correct has protege can copy the ability of every body in marvel maybe with exception of toaa. As he is connected to the source of the powers.

In the first sentence i said that he has feats, i just explained what would happend if he didnt, as @Confluctor asked about her acausality

 

[Westcoast5005]

In the first sentence i said that he has feats, i just explained what would happend if he didnt, as @Confluctor asked about her acausality

Ok.

 

[Westcoast5005]

So what is madoka wincon.

 

[Delta333]

Should I make a thread to remove his immeasurable speed now?

 

[Sevil Natas]

to be fair marvel profiles are very shit, for example when i saw the chaos king profile he doesnt even have NEP2 despite being a manifestation of oblivion,

also btw i think he copies all the resistances of his targets, otherwise he would've just gotten reality warped by the beyonder

 

[Westcoast5005]

to be fair marvel profiles are very shit, for example when i saw the chaos king profile he doesnt even have NEP2 despite being a manifestation of oblivion,

also btw i think he copies all the resistances of his targets, otherwise he would've just gotten reality warped by the beyonder

Yeah he copies the physiology of the characters.

 

[Confluctor]

Should I make a thread to remove his immeasurable speed now?

No, I am revising him soon anyway. Unless you have replacement feats, go ahead.


By soon, could take a few weeks. I am doing a lot of revisions. But should be soon.

 

[Confluctor]

also btw i think he copies all the resistances of his targets, otherwise he would've just gotten reality warped by the beyonde

He does