Proposal for Dragon Ball Cosmology 2-B/2-A

[MrHazama]

Alright, I have debated myself of DBS being 2-B back then, but in this case (And taking a look at it as thoroughly as I can) 2-B DB is likely. 2-A would require a lot more evidence if needed (or if the DBS anime gets more showing of it's cosmology later in the future)

As far as scaling (I know, not the discussion, but I'm saying it anyway) even if 2-B is accepted, I'll be neutral on that unless we;

A): Have evidence for said scaling

B): That said scaling happens in the future

 

[SamanPatou]

While I can see the verse being 2-B, as others said, we have no proof of the boxes actually being infinite, and both Zamasu and Shin state they have visited "all the other worlds", which, accurate or not, wouldn't be possible were they infinite.

We concluded talking about scaling, but sign me in for disagreement FRA.

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

While I can see the verse being 2-B, as others said, we have no proof of the boxes actually being infinite, and both Zamasu and Shin state they have visited "all the other worlds", which, accurate or not, wouldn't be possible were they infinite.

We concluded talking about scaling, but sign me in for disagreement FRA.

simple not to see the end of the boxes, according to the official website of DB works with quantum mechanics

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

2-B cosmology is fine, but I disagree with anyone scaling to it, since neither Zeno or IZ affected all timelines

 

[Steve_Rogers1]

2-B cosmology but nobody scales. That's the best you're going to get

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

2-B cosmology but nobody scales. That's the best you're going to get

well, do what, right? if that's what you get, then that's what it's going to be, do you agree with DB 2-B?

 

[Steve_Rogers1]

well, do what, right? if that's what you get, then that's what it's going to be, do you agree with DB 2-B?

Yes. I do agree with the cosmology being 2-B.

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Yes. I do agree with the cosmology being 2-B.

thanks

 

[TheGodOfICE777]

Should we add this to cosmology pages and put that nobody scales to it?

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Should we add this to cosmology pages and put that nobody scales to it?

yes, but it scales to a single character, Tori-Bot having a base for 2-B, his profile should be almost done

 

[LordGriffin1000]

2-B Cosmology Looks alright to me.

 

[Braking]

lezduit

 

[TheGodOfICE777]

yes, but it scales to a single character, Tori-Bot having a base for 2-B, his profile should be almost done

ig but even if it was a low 2-C cosmology he’d be Low 1-C

 

[Vietthai96]

Should we add this to cosmology pages and put that nobody scales to it?

Put it in Canon verse page, under Power of the Verse section, unless someone willing to make a proper cosmology page

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Put it in Canon verse page, under Power of the Verse section, unless someone willing to make a proper cosmology page

a lot of work for one person, I'm very lazy, if I wasn't lazy I would do it, lol

 

[Eseseso]

This seems very, very sus to me.

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

This seems very, very sus to me.

what kind ?

 

[Eseseso]

what kind ?

Assuming just cuz Trunks says small decisions can make new universes that there are an immeasurable number of universes.

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Assuming just cuz Trunks says small decisions can make new universes that there are an immeasurable number of universes.

Hehehe, I really like it ^-^

 

[Reiner04]

2B seems fine, 2A seems stretched.

 

[TheGodOfICE777]

Put it in Canon verse page, under Power of the Verse section, unless someone willing to make a proper cosmology page

I think that would be fine

 

[TheGodOfICE777]

Is anyone willing to put this in the canon verse page?

 

[Golden_Void]

I agree that the verse woulda be tier 2-B/2-A cosmology wise

However, there's obviously no feats anywhere near that level.

 

[KLOL506]

Yes. This thread is only about cosmology. Nobody scales to this so far.

 

[TheGodOfICE777]

I agree that the verse woulda be tier 2-B/2-A cosmology wise

However, there's obviously no feats anywhere near that level.

I know it’s for the cosmology the thread is to add it to the page

 

[KLOL506]

Is anyone willing to put this in the canon verse page?

We need an explanation page for the cosmology itself first. And then bolden the notes that no one should scale to this until and unless solid feats are found for affecting this cosmology.

 

[Aachintya31]

a lot of people will jump asking the credibility of trunks in case of determining the cosmology of the verse, since he himself was unsure if he was time travelling his own past or went to another timeline.

 

[Peak]

I'm actually still a little skeptical of 2-B, isn't it safe to assume that a new timeline is only created if the past is changed? In this case, 3 characters altered the past, Trunks, Cell and Zamasu, if no one from the future or any other timeline does not interfere, so another timeline won't be created, is this how I interpreted it, or did I miss something?

 

[Dalesean027]

I'm actually still a little skeptical of 2-B, isn't it safe to assume that a new timeline is only created if the past is changed? In this case, 3 characters altered the past, Trunks, Cell and Zamasu, if no one from the future or any other timeline does not interfere, so another timeline won't be created, is this how I interpreted it, or did I miss something?

Yes new timelines are created when someone from another timeline interacts with another and there's at least 2 timelines that exist even after future Trunks is destroyed by zamasu (technically) and zeno so 2-B is valid

 

[Peak]

Yes new timelines are created when someone from another timeline interacts with another and there's at least 2 timelines that exist even after future Trunks is destroyed by zamasu (technically) and zeno so 2-B is valid

but 2-B is 1001 timelines or any finite number above that, what am I missing to have a number compared to that? My memory about dragon ball is vague, but I remember about 7-10 timelines were shown/cited, even if there were more, it doesn't seem safe to claim that there were 1001 timelines changed or anything close to that

Anyway, I won't bother with it too much

 

[Dalesean027]

but 2-B is 1001 timelines or any finite number above that, what am I missing to have a number compared to that? My memory about dragon ball is vague, but I remember about 7-10 timelines were shown/cited, even if there were more, it doesn't seem safe to claim that there were 1001 timelines changed or anything close to that

Anyway, I won't bother with it too much

Ah wait I'm tripping don't mind my last comment the time room is what qualifying for 2-B and there uncountable numbers of timelines that seemingly stretch on infinitely but whether it is or isn't infinitely there's easily at least 1001 given the scans in the OP

 

[Peak]

Ah wait I'm tripping don't mind my last comment the time room is what qualifying for 2-B and there uncountable numbers of timelines that seemingly stretch on infinitely but whether it is or isn't infinitely there's easily at least 1001 given the scans in the OP

ohhhh I see, I missed that scan, thanks

Is there that Gowasu scan in the manga? Since manga and anime are treated differently I think it would be good to add to the OP as well

 

[Dalesean027]

ohhhh I see, I missed that scan, thanks

Is there that Gowasu scan in the manga? Since manga and anime are treated differently I think it would be good to add to the OP as well

I'm not sure I haven't read that arc in the manga

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

ohhhh I see, I missed that scan, thanks

Is there that Gowasu scan in the manga? Since manga and anime are treated differently I think it would be good to add to the OP as well

in the manga there isn't, but in the manga the kaioshin of universe 7 appears with a time ring, proving that there are other time rings in universe 7, we can assume that each universe has these rings of time, infinitely expanding across timelines.

 

[Peak]

in the manga there isn't, but in the manga the kaioshin of universe 7 appears with a time ring, proving that there are other time rings in universe 7, we can assume that each universe has these rings of time, infinitely expanding across timelines.

I understand, I won't insist, 2-B looks fine

 

[Sqiizn]

You can make db cosmology higher than 2A

By using majin buu scans and some db films + scan talk about The Supernatural world transcend dimensions

 

[Peak]

You can make db cosmology higher than 2A

By using majin buu scans and some db films + scan talk about The Supernatural world transcend dimensions

transcending doesn't really grant much without a great deal of additional supporting context, and the movies are non-canon with the exception of the last 2 movies

 

[Sqiizn]

transcending doesn't really grant much without a great deal of additional supporting context, and the movies are non-canon with the exception of the last 2 movies

The films of DBZ are original story

 

[Peak]

The films of DBZ are original story

yes, it's what we call filler, it can't be used as scaling for DBS

 

[Quantu]

The Cosmology of Toei is currently undergoing a separate revision here (though most of the movies don't scale anyway)