Profiles for the Kirby Anime

[Eficiente]

KSS = Kirby: Squeak Squad, with the Copy Palette.

 

[DarkLordofShadows]

@ArbitraryNumbers

I've found it

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

KSS = Kirby: Squeak Squad, with the Copy Palette.

I was just about to say that.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

In regards to translations...

Our Pokémon profiles are very much based on the English script for practicality and accesability.

 

[ArbitraryNumbers]

Even if it is the same continuity, this Kirby is portrayed completely differently in terms of feats, abilities, and weaknesses. I think it's enough distinction to at least get a separate key, if not its own page.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Own page.

 

[ArbitraryNumbers]

Okay. Any more opinions on whether or not Anime Kirby should get his own page?

Also, I'm particularly interested in the feats of Kirby dodging lightning from Kracko. It's a very solid feat, as it is done recurrently throughout that episode, comes straight from the clouds, and its Kirby in base who performs the feat, so it scales quite easily.

It's also worth mentioning that Tiff could also hold her own in evading the lightning, and the scene in particular where she does it looks like it'll be extremely easy to calc. I'll pull it up, give me a sec.

EDIT: Right here. See how we can clearly see how fast Tiff is compared to the lightning? Kirby should be faster than Tiff, so he'd scale from this as well. I'll get on this.

EDIT 2: Actually, I don't even have to do any real calcing here. Just compare the timeframes. Tiff crosses the screen in roughly two seconds, and the lightning does it in one. So Tiff is 1/2 the speed of lightning, or Mach 641 - Massively Hypersonic.

Next I'll calc Kirby dodging lightning, because it requires actual calcing.

 

[Eficiente]

I dont say that it is the same continuity due to the drastic power difference (the anime "ended" in 2003, Kirby's outliers started in 2004) I just point out the possibility of Games Kirby having a stomach dimension for that.

 

[Eficiente]

That and this.

 

[DarkLordofShadows]

Game Kirby clearly has a stomach dimension. It is even shown in Squeak Squad, Triple Deluxe and Planet Robobot... Magolor mentions it as well, if I am not mistaken...

 

[ArbitraryNumbers]

Game Kirby does have a stomach dimension, though.

But that's not relevant to this discussion. We're talking about Anime Kirby, not Game Kirby or any other Kirby.

 

[ArbitraryNumbers]

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:ArbitraryNumbers/Kirby:_Right_Back_At_Ya!_-_Speed_feats

Results:

• Base Kirby at Mach 2.5 for the low end, and Mach 25 for the high end
• Tiff at Mach 641
• Wheel Kirby at Mach 57

 

[Cumberjung]

Skip to the very end of the episode

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXKZYKbg2x0

Dose this count as reality warping/resistance to reality warping?

 

[Ryukama]

Isn't even base Kirby superior to Tiff? I mean she was never really treated as someone that powerful whereas Kirby was the main guy from what I recall.

And I could sworn Kirby's saved her life or beaten guys that've endangered her.

I'm not sure since it's been forever since I've see the show.

 

[ArbitraryNumbers]

Yeah Kirby is vastly superior to her.

But I calc'd her dodging lightning so we could scale Kirby to that. Regardless, it looks kind of outlierish.

 

[Ryukama]

If it's an outlier for Tiff or this Kirby to be that fast then sure. But I think any legit feat Tiff has scales to Kirby.

 

[Eficiente]

What's an outlier when having Toon Force on your side? (just for Kirby though)

 

[Antvasima]

For me, it's not a matter of "let's not use 4kids cause 4kids sucks!" more like "the original source material takes precedence over a translation if there's a discrepency between the two."

I agree about this.

 

[Antvasima]

If an English translation strongly disagrees with the original version, we use the original.

I agree with this as well.

 

[LordXcano]

Idk why we're arguing about dubs and stuff since "controlling the universe" doesn't mean 3-A anymore than the Queen of England controlling England makes her Country level.

Also uhh

https://gfycat.com/PhysicalWelltodoBubblefish

Why are we treating this like real lightning? It comes from a cloud yeah but normal lightning also doesnt take sharp 90 degree turns and act as a homing projectile.

EDIT: The Mach 25 and Mach 57 feats Arbitrary did seem fine though. But that lightning up there is just way too unrealistic and toon force-y to seem legit.

 

[Cumberjung]

Can anybody say if the feat I found is reality warping/resistance to or not?

 

[LordXcano]

@Cumber It seems like the paint only affects the environment unless everybody in Dream Land (including the background extras) also have reality warping resistance.

 

[Antvasima]

If depends on if controlling the universe means reality warping, being an embodiment of its structure, or simply ruling it.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Well, I think it's an irrelevant feat in the end. I think that High 6-C Anime Kirby is fine.

 

[Ryukama]

Agreed with Matt. No need to argue the context of a statement we won't accept no matter which interpretation we go with.

 

[Cumberjung]

If depends on if controlling the universe means reality warping, being an embodiment of its structure, or simply ruling it.

I think your thinking of Meta Knights sword I'm talking about paint Kirby at the end of the episode here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXKZYKbg2x0

 

[LordXcano]

Yeah, 6-C Kirby is fine I think.

 

[Antvasima]

High 6-C seems more reliable, yes.

 

[ArbitraryNumbers]

Kracko seems to be able to control his lightning bolts. That's why the lightning bolt moves. But either way, seems pretty outlierish to me, even one of Kirby's fastest copy abilities hasn't even come close to that.

Also, I think the Kinetic Energy of the meteor is the one we should use, as Kirby's feat is overpowering and redirecting it, not the potential destruction it brings to Dream Land. And Tier 7 seems a lot more consistent.

I suggest Low 7-B in base, 7-B with stronger copy abilities (As calc'd by Darkanine for Crash Kirby destroying a UFO), Unknow with the Star Rod.

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

What about the frying pan feat Kirby did when he threw a gigantic frying pan over the sun and back in like 9 seconds?

 

[ArbitraryNumbers]

That's well over FTL speeds, and we can't use FTL Kinetic energy on this wiki.

 

[Antvasima]

What do the rest of you think about ArbitraryNumbers' suggestion?

 

[SomebodyData]

AN's suggestions looks good.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

I think they seem to lowballed considering the High 6-C and MHS+ feats, plus the FTL feat of the frying pan.

 

[LordXcano]

Shouldn't that feat where he pushed back a sun be calc'd or is that an outlier

 

[Eficiente]

Then again, what's even an outlier when having Toon Force?

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Then again, what's even an outlier when having Toon Force?

That's fallacious. If Kirby was like Popeye, you might have an argument. Instead, he's a goofy children's fiction character, who does a lot of things that follow Toon-logic, but his Anime still has a cohesive plot and characters.

 

[LordXcano]

I'd say 2-C Marvin the Martian would be a good example.

 

[Eficiente]

That changes my opinion on the tier of certain characters, but okey.

 

[ArbitraryNumbers]

I think they seem to lowballed considering the High 6-C and MHS+ feats, plus the FTL feat of the frying pan.

The High 6-C highball comes from the destruction of the island, and assumes vaporization. Kirby wasn't pushing back an explosion, he was redirecting the meteor.