Pre-Crisis Superman vs Darkspine Sonic

[HaveSomeBlade]

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Superman_(Pre-Crisis)

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Sonic


Superman has the sword.

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Battle takes place in the space.

In-character.

Win by death or knock out.


Who wins and why?

Superman: 0

Sonic: 0

 

[HaveSomeBlade]

Bump.

 

[HaveSomeBlade]

Anyone?

Well, since I'm bored I'll give my thoughts on the match. I'm not sure if I can vote being the OP, but at least I can point out something here and there.

I believe Sonic has this 7/10.

The reasons why:

1. Superman's biggest advantage in this match is his supeior speed (Omnipresent > Infinite), however, Sonic has already fought and outmaneuvered an Omnipresent being (Alf Layla wa-Layla). So yeah, I wouldn't call it an advantage against him. Really.

2. Sonic has an edge in both, AP and Durability. While he has a solid Universe level+, Pre-Crisis Superman has "Likely" Universe level+.

3. Sonic's stamina is limitless, while Pre-Crisis Superman has this: Stamina: Incredibly high but has been shown to tire when fighting incredibly strong opponents. I bet someone here will get tired.

4. Powerful hax. Darkspine's "Time Break" was strong enough to affect an extremely powerful entity such as Alf Layla wa-Layla. Superman certainly wouldn't be an exception.


P.S. It is stated that Darkspine Sonic has reality warping abilities, however, that's not entirely true. At the end of "Sonic and the Secret Rings", Sonic only had power to restore 3/7 worlds within the Arabian Nights. The worlds linked to the world rings in his possession respectively. He forced Erazor Djinn to restore the other 4/7 worlds with his second wish after the battle against Alf Layla wa-Layla. In other words, Darkspine Sonic can't perform any reality warping out of the Arabian Nights, once such power only affects said world/reality.

 

[HaveSomeBlade]

Bump.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

P.S. It is stated that Sonic has Time Manipulation and Reality Warping abilities in this form, however, due to the lack of feats, I won't consider it.

? That wasnt a statement, that's from the game itself, he can perform Time Break, which slows down time, and literally warps the reality of the Arabian Nights universe just by moving his hand.

 

[TISSG7Redgrave]

Actualy Superman is faster due to being omnipresent and it's the 4D kind Sonic only has infinite but his AP/Dura is a bit more due to it being solid and has more hax i would give him the win but i suggest speed equal so it's not a speed stomp

 

[HaveSomeBlade]

P.S. It is stated that Sonic has Time Manipulation and Reality Warping abilities in this form, however, due to the lack of feats, I won't consider it.

? That wasnt a statement, that's from the game itself, he can perform Time Break, which slows down time, and literally warps the reality of the Arabian Nights universe just by moving his hand.

I'm sorry, I believe I had poorly expressed myself. *cof cof* TBH, I was just lazy. Anyway...

The reason why I said that is 'cause Sonic only had power to restore 3/7 worlds within the Arabian Nights. The worlds linked to the world rings in his possession respectively. He forced Erazor Djinn to restore the other 4/7 worlds with his second wish after the battle against Alf Layla wa-Layla. In other words, Darkspine Sonic can't perform any reality warping out of the Arabian Nights. And since he and Superman aren't fightning there, Sonic has no reality warping in this fight.

As for the Time Break, yeah, that's an ability of his base form which got a bullshit-increase in power due the power of the world rings. I completely forgot that 'cause I only used Speed Break when I played the game. I just watched the fight on Youtube now and I saw a guy using Time Break to avoid some attacks.

I'll fix it.

Thank you.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Sonic isn't immeasurable or acausal, so Superman travels back in time and kills him when he was tier anything but 2.

 

[HaveSomeBlade]

@TISSG7Redgrave

Since both characters are "Low 2-C" at their strongest, I just wanted them to have a Vs thread without any nerf/buff nor restriction of any kind. And I honestly think this is a good match actually. Sonic isn't stomping the kryptonian. I just think that due to the reasons I mentioned above, Superman would lose 7/10. Mostly due to huge difference in stamina I might say.

Anyway, can I count your vote?

 

[HaveSomeBlade]

Sonic isn't immeasurable or acausal, so Superman travels back in time and kills him when he was tier anything but 2.

"In-character".

He would never do that.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

If his life depended on it, he would. Plus, this fight could never happen in character, as Supes would just throw away the sword.

 

[HaveSomeBlade]

If his life depended on it, he would. Plus, this fight could never happen in character, as Supes would just throw away the sword.

Yeah, I can't remember how many times I saw Supes getting knocked unconscious by his enemies, lol. Bizarro says hi. Also Doomsday, Darkseid and even Lux Luthor. And you know what? MANY TIMES his life depended on it, but they put him to sleep anyway. And not only his life, but the entire planet sometimes. I really can't remember how many times the plot and/or his allies saved him from certain death.

Oh, does Supes behavior changed after he merged with the sword? As far as I know, it don't.

So yeah, this fight is pretty possible.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

You realize this Supes is nigh omniscient in this form. He can and would think of using all of his abilities because he knows almost all, unlike his vastly weaker forms.

 

[HaveSomeBlade]

I'm very aware.

 

[HaveSomeBlade]

Bump.