Possible void manipulation for Grand Priest

[Zenkaibattery1]

https://imgur.com/a/eMyLT

https://imgur.com/a/LvR4S

So, Whis implied here that Grand Priest can erase. He was talking about both Grand Priest and Zen'o.

https://imgur.com/a/kVa9g

Whis stated "this place" (The WoV) was controlled (he mentioned flight after so he was talking about GP doing the controlling). And we know GP can at least reality warp the WoV so he has some control over it.

I think this should warrant at least a "possible void manipulation"

 

[Ryukama]

Whis may just mean that Grand Priest will have Zeno erase Goku. Though I'm not certain.

 

[Zenkaibattery1]

I mean. He was talking about both and said "They" (more than 1 person) can erase Goku. And he was referring to GP as the "more than 1 person" as shown in the first scan. There's also the second scan where it is stated the place (WoV) is controlled.

 

[Ryukama]

Again, it could be referring to just Grand Priest getting Zeno to erase Goku. Technically they'd both kill/erase Goku, but Zeno would be the only one doing the erasing. Like if a dictator commanded a soldier to shoot someone, both the dictator and the shooter could be said to have killed someone, but only one did the shooting.

I'm uncertain though. Best to ask others first.

 

[Zenkaibattery1]

Alright. May I get your opinion on the second point?

 

[LSirLancelotDuLacl]

The they sounds more like Zeno coming to a conclusion with the Grand Priest, not that both of them can achieve this. If the matter was brought up for discussion, I don't see that being the doing of Zeno but of Grand Priest talking about it with him.

As for the second statement, isn't that nothing more than a showcase of Grand Priest's power? There doesn't seem to be anything else inherently peculiar to the WoV except that's a perfect place for all these people to duke it out without collateral damage that they'd need to worry about. That is a void doesn't change the Grand Priest having an ability to exercise power in it.

 

[Zenkaibattery1]

"On the spot" doesn't really sound like anyone is talking about making decisions. It's on the spot.

The WoV as implied as a void (of nothing). So controlling a void of nothingness should be void manipulation. And it was specifically said to be controlled

 

[Ryukama]

So something can not be decided on the spot?

 

[LSirLancelotDuLacl]

But Whis talks about the two of them MAKING, or COMING to a decision, not something spontaneous. Or even if it was, it had to be brought up by someone. Zeno was seemingly not even aware when the whole deal happened with Zamasu, so unless informed or directly involved, it doesn't seem he'd come to a decision about anything he isn't aware of.

 

[Zenkaibattery1]

In the first scan it is stated they already have a decison made. The decision being already made prior refutes that and it's due to the decision they will erase anyone on the spot.

 

[LSirLancelotDuLacl]

As for the WoV, it feels and sounds more like putting things in a blank space, instead of altering the blankness of the blank space. Maybe I am just using a personal, odd definition of Void Manipulation, but it doesn't feel like this is that.

 

[Ryukama]

I'm fine with whichever most people agree on.

 

[Zenkaibattery1]

According to the void manipulation page

"Void Manipulation is power over the void, nothingness or non-existence."

Controlling a void of nothingness is power over nothingness.

 

[LSirLancelotDuLacl]

But that's what I mean. Was it implied in anyway it would be impossible for living beings to exist in the void? Not that I remember, so he's not changing the intrinsic nature of the void. Is there anything special about High Priest that shouldn't allow him to disable flight outside of the void? If he can do it outside of the WoV, what about WoV exactly makes it so doing it in there is different? To me it sounds like painting a canvas and doing nothing to the canvas itself, you are just putting things inside and altering THAT.

 

[Zenkaibattery1]

Closing statement before I go play Pubg/Fortnite (Add me Powermermaid186 :3 xbox )

Whis stating "They" (More than one person. Grand Priest and Zen'o) can erase. He's specifically stating both can. Whis saying on the spot literally means that and it won't be to any decisions made "on the spot" as Whis stated the decision is already final and if someone goes against it "They" will erase.

As for the world of void. According to the VM page "Void Manipulation is power over the void, nothingness or non-existence.". So controlling the WoV should be void manipulation

 

[Golden_Void]

Weren't there two Zenos tho?

 

[LSirLancelotDuLacl]

Okay, I forgot where this was from so I searched to get the context. I would still have to disagree. That Zen-O's main way of dealing with things is unilateral erasing that can't be fought against doesn't tell me Grand Priest can do the same. Grand Priest at this point, and even after Goku achieves Mastered UI, is far above him. To utterly destroy him without effort, or might as well say erase him, would be child's play.

Yeah... no. To me that sounds like saying someone doing stuff in the vacuum of space is void manipulation. You could counter that no space or time exists in WoV unlike in the void between galaxies or stars... except that unless it's pointed out this wouldn't have allowed for the tournament and that something had to be done, they are still battling in this timeless, spaceless void without problem. So the absence of those two shouldn't and wouldn't change what's achievable in there compared to any of the normal universes.

 

[LSirLancelotDuLacl]

There's two now, after the Infinite Zamasu debacle.

 

[Zenkaibattery1]

Weren't there two Zenos tho?

Yes. But in this context hes specifaclly talking about gp as well. Because prior he said that zeno and gp have made up their mind and that if their decision is argued "they"ll get angry and erase.

By the way. When they say "zeno" they are referring to both as 1 person. E.g. when the 2 of them were erasing U9, the kai said "zeno sama" looking at both. When both zenos arrived for the exhabition match, daishinkan said "zeno sama" looking at both.

What is your opinion on the wov