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Here is what a friend who read the Light Novels and all Fate work told me about Gilgamesh
feel free to agree or disagree so here is what he told me and i wanted to see if that was true/debateable or not since Gilgamesh is" at least Planet lvl " so he might be possibly higher and maybe we are even lowballing him..
"1. Composite Gilgamesh defeated a higher dimensional being that exists above multiple dimensional layers. 2. Her powers are far superior to the third and fourth dimensional existence, and if you dont know... that is Universe+ level and they were described as the person reading the book. 3. Third dimensional existance is just a simple page of the book, she can read the book and flip the pages as she wants to.
4. She also exists above concept of infinite time and reality itself. Gilgamesh laughed how weak she was compared to him. 5. She failed to kill Gilgamesh multiple times. 6. In the last fight when Gilgamesh tried to finish her off, she destroyed the infinite Universe that never stops to expand. 7. Everyone died besides Gilgamesh who broke the laws of the nature and Universe itself, after he survived he took his Master back and became the leader of Universe. 8. (If someone downplays) I can tell that you watched Anime only, which is the source of your ignorance.Gilgamesh is strongest and most skilled Servant in Fate. Even while he is summoned as Archer he can fight in meele combat against Shirou/Archer who traced every single fighting style and skill on Earth. He even can fight with Saber who is one of the most skilled fighters in Fate. 9. Also base Gilgamesh was able to compress entire Universe, focus it around Ea and destroy reality as side effect with only one swing. ENUMA ELISH Star of Genesis — Separate Heaven and Earth!!!"The distortion ruptured.The entire universe that had been compressed beyond limit focused around Ea, and was released by its wielder's slash. The resulting pressure wave sundered the nearby space. The World itself was sucked up by the chasm of the Void, and turned inside out. "Who would believe that this scene was caused by the swing of a sword? The Void emerged from the chasm, rupturing space further. The World eroded, giving way to countless fissures in reality. The sands cracked like clay. The sky and clouds were shredded like so much paper. It was a hellish landscape, as if a painting of the desert had been thrown into a blender." 1. (If someone says he read the LN's/VN's when he didn't and lies to attempt a lowball) Gilgamesh lost to Shirou and others because 1.He was not serious. 2.They had prep time. 3.They had plot amor. Base Gilgamesh is planet buster, composite Gilgamesh in Fate/Extra CCC is his "Origin" form, the powers he had when he was alive. In other Fate work he does not have his "Origin" powers. Hmph, you are the one who lacks the understanding. I shall post few feats to prove you wrong. Narrator statements and few character statements. 1. "...Core is a higher dimensional existence..." 2. BB and Kiara became the Moon Cell after reaching the core"That very Moon Cell is what BB became. She gained the perspective of a higher dimension. That's why?BB can make use of the past and the future at the same time.When she reached the core, she gained the power to choose and ascertain the future." 3.Rin explains how her powers are way superior to that of third and fourth dimensional existence. "The perception of the recorded universe is over many dimensions…think of it as a higher dimensional existence. From this higher dimension, the third dimension looks like a flat scroll." ...She's obtained a higher dimensional perspective. So — BB can handle the past and the future simultaneously." 4.Narrator statement "Since she became an existence of the archival space, BB, who can travel back in time and rewind reality" 5.Another narrator statement "Having obtained the power of the original goddess, BB successfully digitized the "nothingness" before life was born. This made her a master of imaginary number space, where time and space are both uncertain. No matter how much time hacking the Moon Cell requires, BB achieved it by placing herself in the concept of "infinite time." 2. I can post more feats to prove that she is a higher dimensonal being on Universe+ level and higher.This is however enough.Gilgamesh speed is not plot, he has scaling and feats from another Servants who recieved a power boost.He was able to move so fast that he broke dimesinonal walls in eight different dimesions. "Even though I managed to pass through the imaginary number space at the speed of light, a huge wall now stands before our devilish heroine BB-chan! It's a perfectly spherical spirit particle defense wall that cuts through eight dimensions." Narrator said that traveling time was short.It was said to be in instant. Not to say he can cross 404 light years in few seconds as well. Narrator statement"404 light-years. The distance between the seventh layer and the center."He also scales above Saber and Archer who have crossed entire Horsehead Nebula that has 1500 light years distance and galaxy in instant without using any Noble Phantasam. 1. A statment from character that exists as long as Moon Cell does and has enough knowledge about it. 2. "There is no limit to how large she can get. Once the upper limit is reached, the upper limit is further increased. This is infinitely repeated. Basically infinite growth of infinite growth." 3. "If left alone, Kingprotea could threaten the universe. However, she would not destroy the universe. That's because the rate of her growth is inferior to the expansion speed of the universe." 4. Despite her having powers of higher dimesional being that exists on multiple dimesional layers, being above concept of infinite time and reality itself, being able to control past, present and future in every dimesional layer she exists that was not enough to kill Gilgamesh multiple times in the game."
feel free to agree or disagree so here is what he told me and i wanted to see if that was true/debateable or not since Gilgamesh is" at least Planet lvl " so he might be possibly higher and maybe we are even lowballing him..
"1. Composite Gilgamesh defeated a higher dimensional being that exists above multiple dimensional layers. 2. Her powers are far superior to the third and fourth dimensional existence, and if you dont know... that is Universe+ level and they were described as the person reading the book. 3. Third dimensional existance is just a simple page of the book, she can read the book and flip the pages as she wants to.
4. She also exists above concept of infinite time and reality itself. Gilgamesh laughed how weak she was compared to him. 5. She failed to kill Gilgamesh multiple times. 6. In the last fight when Gilgamesh tried to finish her off, she destroyed the infinite Universe that never stops to expand. 7. Everyone died besides Gilgamesh who broke the laws of the nature and Universe itself, after he survived he took his Master back and became the leader of Universe. 8. (If someone downplays) I can tell that you watched Anime only, which is the source of your ignorance.Gilgamesh is strongest and most skilled Servant in Fate. Even while he is summoned as Archer he can fight in meele combat against Shirou/Archer who traced every single fighting style and skill on Earth. He even can fight with Saber who is one of the most skilled fighters in Fate. 9. Also base Gilgamesh was able to compress entire Universe, focus it around Ea and destroy reality as side effect with only one swing. ENUMA ELISH Star of Genesis — Separate Heaven and Earth!!!"The distortion ruptured.The entire universe that had been compressed beyond limit focused around Ea, and was released by its wielder's slash. The resulting pressure wave sundered the nearby space. The World itself was sucked up by the chasm of the Void, and turned inside out. "Who would believe that this scene was caused by the swing of a sword? The Void emerged from the chasm, rupturing space further. The World eroded, giving way to countless fissures in reality. The sands cracked like clay. The sky and clouds were shredded like so much paper. It was a hellish landscape, as if a painting of the desert had been thrown into a blender." 1. (If someone says he read the LN's/VN's when he didn't and lies to attempt a lowball) Gilgamesh lost to Shirou and others because 1.He was not serious. 2.They had prep time. 3.They had plot amor. Base Gilgamesh is planet buster, composite Gilgamesh in Fate/Extra CCC is his "Origin" form, the powers he had when he was alive. In other Fate work he does not have his "Origin" powers. Hmph, you are the one who lacks the understanding. I shall post few feats to prove you wrong. Narrator statements and few character statements. 1. "...Core is a higher dimensional existence..." 2. BB and Kiara became the Moon Cell after reaching the core"That very Moon Cell is what BB became. She gained the perspective of a higher dimension. That's why?BB can make use of the past and the future at the same time.When she reached the core, she gained the power to choose and ascertain the future." 3.Rin explains how her powers are way superior to that of third and fourth dimensional existence. "The perception of the recorded universe is over many dimensions…think of it as a higher dimensional existence. From this higher dimension, the third dimension looks like a flat scroll." ...She's obtained a higher dimensional perspective. So — BB can handle the past and the future simultaneously." 4.Narrator statement "Since she became an existence of the archival space, BB, who can travel back in time and rewind reality" 5.Another narrator statement "Having obtained the power of the original goddess, BB successfully digitized the "nothingness" before life was born. This made her a master of imaginary number space, where time and space are both uncertain. No matter how much time hacking the Moon Cell requires, BB achieved it by placing herself in the concept of "infinite time." 2. I can post more feats to prove that she is a higher dimensonal being on Universe+ level and higher.This is however enough.Gilgamesh speed is not plot, he has scaling and feats from another Servants who recieved a power boost.He was able to move so fast that he broke dimesinonal walls in eight different dimesions. "Even though I managed to pass through the imaginary number space at the speed of light, a huge wall now stands before our devilish heroine BB-chan! It's a perfectly spherical spirit particle defense wall that cuts through eight dimensions." Narrator said that traveling time was short.It was said to be in instant. Not to say he can cross 404 light years in few seconds as well. Narrator statement"404 light-years. The distance between the seventh layer and the center."He also scales above Saber and Archer who have crossed entire Horsehead Nebula that has 1500 light years distance and galaxy in instant without using any Noble Phantasam. 1. A statment from character that exists as long as Moon Cell does and has enough knowledge about it. 2. "There is no limit to how large she can get. Once the upper limit is reached, the upper limit is further increased. This is infinitely repeated. Basically infinite growth of infinite growth." 3. "If left alone, Kingprotea could threaten the universe. However, she would not destroy the universe. That's because the rate of her growth is inferior to the expansion speed of the universe." 4. Despite her having powers of higher dimesional being that exists on multiple dimesional layers, being above concept of infinite time and reality itself, being able to control past, present and future in every dimesional layer she exists that was not enough to kill Gilgamesh multiple times in the game."
