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This thread gave me the idea of making this one. While it is certainly far less common than other topics here, given the fact it was legitimately argued for a characters statistics in a revision, I feel the need to address this as a possible new rule addition.
Most of us (including myself) know for a fact that using theme openings from an anime, cartoon, movie, etc. are 100% non-canon for having absolutely no basis, connection or relevance to the show they are representing. In addition, feats from intros to a show are 99% guranteed to be massive outliers. And as an example of this, i'll use the example I detailed in the linked thread, Pokemon. Quoted:
"Intros for ANY series period are 100% non-canon to the actual show and theres a ridiculous amount of examples. Some of which i'll post now to show why I disagree. I'll use Pokemon as an example.
1.) Ash's Pikachu in this theme intro here launches a thunderbolt from the earth into outer space in seconds. Are we gonna upgrade him to sub-rel or LS now because of this?
2.)
Pikachu overpowers a Registeel with a single volt tackle in "Advanced Battle" intro. High 6-A Pikachu too?
3.)
Ash's Swellow does the same thing to Regice with an aerial ace. High 6-A Swellow when?
4.)
In'' a DP opening, Lucario tries taking on Palkia for poke sakes. Should we make him insta 2-B now?
5.)
Ash's Buizel in this opening damages Darkrai using Sonic Boom. 2-B Buizel now.
6.)
In Sinnoh League Victors opening, Team Rocket float far out into outer space and see a Mew and Mewtwo travel past a galaxy behind them in a nano-second (and then a Rayquaza and Deoxys). MFTL+ speed for them?
7.)
Same opening, Lugia's about to take on a Kyogre. Upgrade for Lugia now to 5-B?
8.)
In the Galactic Battles opening, Heatran hits Darkrai with its Hyper beam. Another 2-B pokemon to add to the gang?
Im not saying this to be disrespectful or rude, but theres a reason why we dont take these openings seriously at all. In pokemons case, if we were to allow openings, we'd get an early sub-rel+ High 6-A Pikachu + Swellow, MFTL+ Mew, Mewtwo, Rayquaza and Deoxys, a 5-B level Lugia, and a 2-B level anime Lucario, Heatran, and Buizel.
And everyone here knows these ratings are ridiculously big outliers for them all.
Maybe this can help explain why intros dont at all count as feats."
Maybe some of us here would get by and absolutely love a MFTL+ Mewtwo (Im looking at you Cal OvO) or a Sub-Rel+ High 6-A early level Ash Pikachu, but we all know this perfectly shows why Intros can't and should never be argued as actual feats. That being said, some out of all don't see this the same way since it was argued for Thomas in the same revision thread (and others IIRC). That is why, to prevent something like this from ever popping up again in the future, I feel we should make a simple rule noting Intros do not count as feats at all, unless they, in a 1 out of a million chance, have some canonical connection to their actual medias, and this is an EXTREMELY big IF.
Most of us (including myself) know for a fact that using theme openings from an anime, cartoon, movie, etc. are 100% non-canon for having absolutely no basis, connection or relevance to the show they are representing. In addition, feats from intros to a show are 99% guranteed to be massive outliers. And as an example of this, i'll use the example I detailed in the linked thread, Pokemon. Quoted:
"Intros for ANY series period are 100% non-canon to the actual show and theres a ridiculous amount of examples. Some of which i'll post now to show why I disagree. I'll use Pokemon as an example.
1.) Ash's Pikachu in this theme intro here launches a thunderbolt from the earth into outer space in seconds. Are we gonna upgrade him to sub-rel or LS now because of this?
2.)
Pikachu overpowers a Registeel with a single volt tackle in "Advanced Battle" intro. High 6-A Pikachu too?
3.)
Ash's Swellow does the same thing to Regice with an aerial ace. High 6-A Swellow when?
4.)
In'' a DP opening, Lucario tries taking on Palkia for poke sakes. Should we make him insta 2-B now?
5.)
Ash's Buizel in this opening damages Darkrai using Sonic Boom. 2-B Buizel now.
6.)
In Sinnoh League Victors opening, Team Rocket float far out into outer space and see a Mew and Mewtwo travel past a galaxy behind them in a nano-second (and then a Rayquaza and Deoxys). MFTL+ speed for them?
7.)
Same opening, Lugia's about to take on a Kyogre. Upgrade for Lugia now to 5-B?
8.)
In the Galactic Battles opening, Heatran hits Darkrai with its Hyper beam. Another 2-B pokemon to add to the gang?
Im not saying this to be disrespectful or rude, but theres a reason why we dont take these openings seriously at all. In pokemons case, if we were to allow openings, we'd get an early sub-rel+ High 6-A Pikachu + Swellow, MFTL+ Mew, Mewtwo, Rayquaza and Deoxys, a 5-B level Lugia, and a 2-B level anime Lucario, Heatran, and Buizel.
And everyone here knows these ratings are ridiculously big outliers for them all.
Maybe this can help explain why intros dont at all count as feats."
Maybe some of us here would get by and absolutely love a MFTL+ Mewtwo (Im looking at you Cal OvO) or a Sub-Rel+ High 6-A early level Ash Pikachu, but we all know this perfectly shows why Intros can't and should never be argued as actual feats. That being said, some out of all don't see this the same way since it was argued for Thomas in the same revision thread (and others IIRC). That is why, to prevent something like this from ever popping up again in the future, I feel we should make a simple rule noting Intros do not count as feats at all, unless they, in a 1 out of a million chance, have some canonical connection to their actual medias, and this is an EXTREMELY big IF.
