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Possible Heaven Dio upgrade....?

CrossverseCrisis

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So a thought came to me recently about Heaven Dio.

What this thought of mines was that this version of Dio is a what-if, more powerful version of the canon Dio we all know and love (aye). Now it's known as far with all the info we could gather, mainly from the JJBA wiki itself, that Dio got more powerful along with an upgraded and more powerful version of his original stand, The World Over Heaven. That's very true.

But wouldn't Dio be not only more haxxier, but also physically powerful? I'm not suggesting putting him at Tier 2 status physically since there doesn't seem to be any info regarding him having been ascended to a higher status or whatever counts as being Tier 2 without that part, no. (Note: If there is any shred of evidence that he may very well be Tier 2 in stats rather than through hax, please do kindly bring them up here if and when possible).

what i'm trying to put is that wouldn't Heaven Dio be 7-C+, if not High 7-C, for being more powerful than Ultimate Kars or something? Now y'all may think this is a bit far fetch but try to hear me out on this: I've been told by AMM a while back in chat that WoG had supposedly stated that End of Part 3 Dio was a "more perfect being than Kars" or whatever he said that time. I think by that he meant that means Dio was more powerful than Ultimate Kars at the time.

Now i can't confirm if this is really true or not since it may have been a databook thing or whatever that AMM mentioned to me one time, idk. But even then, wouldn't Heaven Dio be as powerful as Kars himself, especially even in his Ultimate form,; if not even more (well just putting him as likely/at least 7-C+ just to be safe)?

I haven't really thought much of what this could bring (in a bad way i mean) and i don't mind keep HAD as is just to be safe, but i'd like to hear others thoughts on this if possible.
 
Well, if there's a link to the WoG quote, it could quite possibly mean upgrading post-Joseph's blood DIO and End of Part III Jotaro to Ultimate Kars level, along with upgrading HAD's physical strength.
 
It could yes. Thing is i have no idea where to get it. So far only AMM mentioned it to me a long time ago and that was it. Heck even Xcano mentioned it on this other JJBA thread.

If i had the quote, i'd surely and obviously post it here by now.
 
Hmm...i never really thought about doing that. The hell? xD

But that would surely help here, yes. Again tho, i'm fine with having HAD as he is now but the idea of him being weaker than Ult. Kars seems a tiny bit odd to me...just a tiny bit, and this is considering the whole "Heaven" thing going around with this ver. of Dio.
 
Wait i just realize something tho, Azzy? End of Jotaro Part 3, with SP, was able to beat Dio after a long battle (assuming we manage to get the WoG statement and if it is indeed true). Yet wouldn't this apply to stands like CD and others matched to it anyways given that all stands that are ranked A or otherwise scale to SP?

Seems like a mess in a sense....like that time i was asking if Dio could get MFTL reactions from fighting against SP in the final battle?
 
Cause now that i think about it, i'm not sure if this would be as big as a possible mess than what the last part i said but....hmm...
 
I would say that we all wait until the JoJo's coloured team gets to translating pages from JoJoveller, they have already translated Araki's comments so it will be here in a few months I'd say.
 
That long, huh? Hmm. Well i can perhaps wait on it. I still think this had to brought up considering HAD's....powers and "Heaven" thing.
 
Before i close this for the time being when the translations of JoJoveller comes out later this year, i have to ask: Given how close Ult. Kars is to Large Town level, wouldn't those like End of Part 3 Dio be like "likely Large Town level" or something of the sorts if the WoG statement is true of him being stronger than the former?
 
What Everlasting said. That's related to what's discussed here, which is possibly upgrading HAD to Ult. Kars level due to some WoG statement that Araki himself said.
 
i agree we should upgrade people who scale to DIO's strength at the end of part 3 and this applies to his physical strength when he obtained heaven just maybe add possibly 7-A via WoG to be safe
 
@Redgrave: Is the possibly 7-A because of HAD being possibly higher than Kars with the RSoA? Cause i'm kind of fine with getting him at 7-C+ (if not High 7-C considering how extremely close HAD, and originally by extension EoP3 DIO and anyone that scales to him from Ult. Kars or whatever).

But i would like to hear the others on that, however...
 
Or that too. I'd rather have that on hand here so all of us can read through it carefully and see how we can handle it from here after...
 
A somewhat related question: Why Kars' dura doesn't scale to his AP? He has shown being able to manipulation and IIRC brusts through his own body quite a lot.
 
Saikou The Lewd King said:
A somewhat related question: Why Kars' dura doesn't scale to his AP? He has shown being able to manipulation and IIRC brusts through his own body quite a lot.
Is this in reference as to why Kars in Ult. Form is not 7-A in AP?
 
i think it should if it states outright Ultimate Form Kars is weaker to DIO sooo a ton of 7-As coming up lel if we can find it
 
But of course as Austrian said, we need that WoG quote of Dio being greater than Ult. Kars if we were to want to have them upgraded like that.

Though in all honesty, i just wanted to know if HAD can be scaled to Ult. Kars even without considering how powerful he got in his universe after achieving Heaven and shit.
 
It seems kinda really inconsistent to me that High Dio > Perfect Kars, when Jotaro beat him through sheer force and didn't get any stronger.
 
Promestein said:
It seems kinda really inconsistent to me that High Dio > Perfect Kars, when Jotaro beat him through sheer force and didn't get any stronger.
Kars has better regen and (bodily) hax though.
 
Kars also has Mountain level durability.
 
Okay, okay~

Now i know the thing may be a problem.....but can we try to get back to the original matter here~

Prom-chan, Xcano. What's y'alls thoughts on this for HAD?
 
Promestein said:
Kars also has Mountain level durability.
OHHHH ohh I get what you're saying. That Star Platinum doesn't have that AP?

Yeah idk.

@Crossover If he's more perfect then I'd assume he scales but I'm kinda worried this quote is like the "FTL by the end of Dragon Ball" Akira quote.
 
Well that's assuming if we take it as such. Problem is that would HAD still be superior to Kars, more particularly his Ult. Form even?

I mean Heaven DIO is non-canon, but i take it this may still be a problem given that Araki's supposed statement of End Part 3 (canon) Dio > Kars, eh? Yes, no....meh?
 
Well HAD is just DIO with Jonathon's body but with a really good Stand so I'd assume he'd be at the very least equal to EoP3 DIO
 
Mmmm....welp, that's something. Though still, and while i don't mind having him as is now still, i do like the thought of maybe him being likely superior to Ult. Kars.

But we'll see then if this can possibly still happen...
 
I think that, if we get the quote, "At least 8-A, possibly 7-C/7-A/whatever" would be best for High Dio and HAD.

High Dio would need his own key.
 
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