• This forum is strictly intended to be used by members of the VS Battles wiki. Please only register if you have an autoconfirmed account there, as otherwise your registration will be rejected. If you have already registered once, do not do so again, and contact Antvasima if you encounter any problems.

    For instructions regarding the exact procedure to sign up to this forum, please click here.
  • We need Patreon donations for this forum to have all of its running costs financially secured.

    Community members who help us out will receive badges that give them several different benefits, including the removal of all advertisements in this forum, but donations from non-members are also extremely appreciated.

    Please click here for further information, or here to directly visit our Patreon donations page.
  • Please click here for information about a large petition to help children in need.

Possible ability for Future Zamasu

Status
Not open for further replies.
A specific explanation.
 
Anime4Life2020 said:
Angelicus ONE said:
It's been leaked that Goku Black is actually the 'future' of Present Zamasu.
So that means acasuality is a no no for Zamasu?
We don't know. There are three versions of Zamasu. Present: who is dead. Future: who is immortal. And finally, Black: a Zamasu from unknown alternate timeline who switched bodies with Goku using the Super Dragon Balls.

Despite the fact we now know what's up with Black, we still haven't gotten a concrete explanation about how Future Zamasu is still alive in spite of Beerus saying that killing him in the present should have eradicated his future self. Until we can finally get an explanation that doesn't require us to piece evidence together, I would hold off on saying 'Yay' or "Nay'.
 
I agree about waiting for an explanation.
 
Well, episode 61 came out, and I believe we do have an official explanation now.

Namely that wearing a Time Ring makes you unaffected by changes in the timeline.

So it's not what I hoped, but it's better than nothing.
 
The Everlasting said:
Well, episode 61 came out, and I believe we do have an official explanation now.
Namely that wearing a Time Ring makes you unaffected by changes in the timeline.

So it's not what I hoped, but it's better than nothing.
Zamasu would have acasuality via Time Ring right? Not a bad imo, also this confirmation adds further support that Beerus wasn't just hyping himself up when talking about spacetime.
 
Time ring would fall under Black's standard equipment though, so acausality while wearing the ring is something the can make use of in battle.

Zamasu on the other hand doesn't seem to have a timering for himself does he?
 
On a different note, does this give us any important details about the quantity in timelines or what?

Since he IS acasual via the time-ring, wouldn't that confirm an infinite loop in the time-stream and thus innumerable timelines? Just curious
 
The Everlasting said:
Well, episode 61 came out, and I believe we do have an official explanation now.
Namely that wearing a Time Ring makes you unaffected by changes in the timeline.

So it's not what I hoped, but it's better than nothing.
With that said, safe to say that we could give Acausality to both Future Zamasu and Goku Black. For Black, the Time Ring is something he's always using it as part of his own equipment. Future Zamasu should have inherited a ring as well has he killed Gowasu and would have access to it.

However, have we ever seen F!Zamasu with a time ring? Just wondering.
 
Well, none of this is wrong. It just doesn't fall under Zamasu's natural abilities. Doesn't change a thing considering it's casual equipment.
 
I think that "Acausality when wearing the time ring" seems acceptable to add.
 
Goku black doesnt have acausality, he is only protected from being erased through time, that is only a characterstic of acausality, not the whole ability, at best it is Time-based acausality since the Time ring only affects... time, or are you telling me he is unaffected by Causality manipulation.
 
I thought that acausality meant being immune to changes in one's personal previous timeline?
 
Acausality means being out of the cause-effect relationship, which is in part being killed in the past.
 
Hmm. Would "Partial acausality with the time ring (Immune to changes in his previous timeline)" be acceptable?
 
Yep, that sounds more accurate.

Btw, here is a link to acausality.

http://powerlisting.wikia.com/wiki/Causality_Immunity

As you can see, its more than simply being killed in the past. Future zamasu's imortality, being type 4 i believe, may or may not include acausality, since it should be overriden by a greater power than the one who gave him said immortality.
 
How about this:

Future Zamasu - "Partial Acasuality via Immortality"

Goku Black - "Partial Acasuality via Time Ring"

Beerus - "Possible Existence Erasure"
 
Future Zamasu is likely the version from Trunks' timeline. I am uncertain if he would be affected.
 
I have added the ability to Goku Black.
 
I suppose that might be acceptable.

In addition, we probably need "Existence Erasure" as a new "Powers and Abilities" page.
 
I think it was said in the episode the reason it didn't affect him was because the timering makes him immune to being affected by changing the past
 
Kkapoios seems to have deleted the page. In addition, when I checked up the edit history, it focuses on expelling beings and objects from reality, not on completely eradicating them, as I intended.
 
Black does at least. I do not know about the other Zamasu.
 
Well, we do not know that, so we cannot say for certain.
 
Well, I might have simply overlooked it.
 
I thought he had because hes still alive even after Beerus had erased all other Zamasu but him and Black.
 
Well, it isn't the same Zamasu as the one that Beerus destroyed.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top