Why isn’t it canon? Because people meet from different games? That doesn’t make something noncanon.
ALL Pokémon are fixed. Literally every single Sync Pair you can summon in the verse has a certain Pokémon. And you literally can look at their moves and abilities in the game. You don’t even need to own the unit.
Honestly virtually everything kinda treats it like that, but Masters outright retcons it.
we ain't saying shit man, we don't know what the dude's on about either
Whoops, sorry for implying that. I think I subconsciously assumed it was something already accepted, since Gloria’s profile has a Masters key and that note about certain things not being canon.
the profile was made without any notable discussion between supporters and with no CRTs, at this point it should be deleted i say.
I do think that a CRT should be made because it was not discussed, and we can't just change profiles that were just created.
That's a funny coincidence, I'm working on a CRT on it too.
Masters treats the games as one explicit timeline while things like the anime and the timeline in Legends: Arceus are alternate universes. That actually makes more sense than you'd think, because Unova is one of the only games that even treats its other games as alternate timelines. Sinnoh is just other trainers you meet in the Underground, Kalos is trainers around the world, same with Alola, Galar is just trainers you meet in the Wild Area.
By that logic, the protagonists of a ton of different franchises shouldn't have profiles.
Well no, cause its a bit different when it comes down to the likes of Pokemon and how the game works.
The main issue I have with saying it that way is that the games don't interact with their counterparts, but our cosmology is hinged entirely around the statement that every copy of the games is a timeline, so even if the games don't address it, and Masters has it's own personal decision on which ones are canon to it, it doesn't change the larger scale cosmology we also need to consider.
Not really, the Megami Tensei franchises and Digimon video games come to mind.
You mean like most self-insert, silent protagonist RPG characters?
For the same reason that most Pokémon don't have profiles, the series is outdated as hell on this website.
I genuinely don't see the difference.
I mean, yeah? That's the normal assumption to make since it's something you can do in game.
What does "they fit in the world of Pokemon" mean to you? Also they literally do explain why they're all on one island. Lear's Hoopa rings them there.
Ok? That's not what the source says. It says that Masters takes place within the world that the games do.
I don't remember Flannery debuting in ORAS.
It's an Imgur link I posted and I can still see clearly, no it's not. Also you have yet to name a reason it can't work.
This is how I know you're an enemy of Pokemon scaling. "Just make the characters weaker lol"
Well, they all do have the goal of completing the Pokedex, it's only until LGPE onwards where that'd now be limited to a regional dex over the National one (except for species that can still be transfered as transfers have some flavor to not make them a game mechanic, as a low-end).
Not necessarily, some playable characters do have some gimmicks the average trainer doesn't have, for example, the SV protagonist technically can Terastallize stuff with no recharge required compared to most other trainers, but I do agree that such profiles could get a CRT of their own to settle this kind of matter.
Okay but how exactly can we assume and decide what '6 Pokemon' they'd be using legitimately? It's not like completing the Pokedex barely ever unlocks anything story-wise (unless its PLA).
They can do that sure, but its more to do with characters themself over just the Pokemon. Like...these aren't actual characters who you can distinguish other than summoning mechanics.
A lot of people wank how substantial the verse is, and for some reason just assume every story is a multiverse story while literally only USUM has ever done that.
Same here, I think it is canon as a stand-alone thing but not canon to literaly every universe out there. Its far more consistent that way as well. I think occam's razor here does its job well and tells us that it is easier and more reasonable to say that Masters uses characters from the canon but in a different timeline with their own personal scaling and inter-scaling instead of assuming the entire ending of Sword and Shield is non-canon.
Its quite obvious Masters EX is NOT mainline adjacent.
Given each cart is its own timeline per general lore and the Entralink, strictly speaking any combination possible is fair game, especially as there's infinite timelines, as ultimately anything non-glitchy done by players is in a way canon.
I'd think such pages, for readability purposes and to not just barf information from Pokemon wikies, would merely index stuff specific to the respective trainer, then ask for the reader to look for a given region's Pokedex (or the National one at its time).
Yeah but why bother making a page for a character then if you have to pick and choose what versions, items, and everything else to use, then with no actual idea on how the character acts, their battle-style etc.
The trainer isnt a notable character enough, with way too many variables on what they 'can be' to have their own profile tbh. I mean, its a shame cause they're literally characters made for the story, but then what happens?
You are the one fighting so hard against a game you have clearly never played.
Literally the protagonist himself was brought from his region in the main timeline onto Pasio in the main timeline. It's rarely ever this "different dimension" crap.
Lol so you just ignored the scan.
Even that isn't true. ORAS replaced RSE in canon. The current iteration of the character was created in ORAS.
"This one scan doesn't prove anything!!"
Yeah, how dare I make Gloria slightly higher into 2-B than she was initially.
"Multiverse of Madness is NOT mainline adjacent. We have Dr. Strange and Scarlet Witch go into whole different realities."
Clearly not the same thing lmfao.
Yes, it is. Mr. Purple Shorts was ringed from his universe into the universe of the main games. That does not retroactively make Masters noncanon.
Aight im not even gonna continue w/ you ngl. I can tell this wont go anywhere
My profiles aren't even the first ones to mention Pokemon Masters. This site literally already treats it as canon.
