Plot Manip vs Transduality

[SupremeNiva]

Which one is stronger?

 

[manu_zarri]

depends from the level of them

 

[SupremeNiva]

depends from the level of them

Lets say that highest level of Plot Manip vs Transduality 4, which one will win?

 

[manu_zarri]

Lets say that highest level of Plot Manip vs Transduality 4, which one will win?

pretty sure there isn't like "superior to reallity and fiction", so i vote plot

 

[Darksmash]

Both are undefined vague Umbrella abilities that can be NLFed over one another

Transduality? Part of the story
Or Plot? Falls under the Reality/Fiction duality

 

[Auristela19]

Both are undefined vague Umbrella abilities that can be NLFed over one another

Transduality? Part of the story
Or Plot? Falls under the Reality/Fiction duality

but let's assume that a character has a reality-fiction duality or smth. even though it doesn't work on a plot or narrative scale but on a conceptual level, will it at least give resistance to Plot Manipulation users of the same tier?

 

[Grand_Saver_Ritsuka]

but let's assume that a character has a reality-fiction duality or smth. even though it doesn't work on a plot or narrative scale but on a conceptual level, will it at least give resistance to Plot Manipulation users of the same tier?

Nah. Transduality is op, especially at type 4, but it ain't transcending the plot. A character is fiction to you means it is fiction. No matter how much it is transdual or reality fiction whatever, it is still fiction. Or else amaranth would erase us. Plot hax should stomp this. EG amaranth is transdual type 4. Do you think it can jump out of elder scrolls and erase us? No. We on other hand, can control the plot and easily turn it into a weak ant. Type 4 transcend reality fiction only in it's own narrative.
We even have an example where a 9-B gilgamesh from the unwritten series Yeeted a high 1-A transdual leviathan via plot hax.