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Platonic concept and Type 1 concept
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Platonic: Yes
Type 1 Concept: No
Type 1 Concept: No
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Straight to the point? I like it..
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What's the difference aren't they almost like the same, aren't they?
Type 1 concept: circle is circle because it's under the form of circleness
Plato: a table is a table because it's tableness
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Type 1 concept is just being independent from thing it govern, being independent =/= superiority. You can have type 3 concept but also independent. Jungian Archetypes is also independent yet nowhere close to Platonic, and it change it form based on the perception of what it govern too. Type 1 concept is just a broad term for any concepts in fiction that govern the everything in physical reality why being independent from it
Platonic on the other hand is described as abstract concepts that govern physical reality, physical reality is a complete illusion, an inferior, shadow reflection of the abstract concepts above it, Platonic is far more than just being concept that is independent from what it govern, this is just a simplified explanation, in order to understand more you need to actually read and research on Plato philosophies to understand
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No. Type 1 is a independent concept, while a platonic concept is the eternal form of an object, being ineffable and stuff. Plato was onto sum..
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Can you give an example of each?
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Thanks that helped a lot
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For example, a type 1 concept would be something like circle-ness? It involves every object that is circular in a universal range while being independent from it. As the concept of circle-ness still exists even after every circle is destroyed.
As for a platonic concept (Eidos), maybe soul? Plato used souls as a primary example of a platonic concept. Souls are described as the insurmountable, true form of objects that is unchanging and perfect. It views object below as merely illusions.
Yeah, that's about it.
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I guess some of the character page ain't updated then cuz I saw one scaling to platonic concept to outer
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platonic concepts are outer. but just the verse calling it a concept platonic doesn't cut it. it needs to follow all the characterestics of theory of forms or smth like that. Though a general defination for platonic concept do suffice apparently here.
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Concepts technically don't have a tier. They're abstract.
In context, they might, but not in a vacuum.
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ah i am not even tiering them like that, the op simply asked if it qualifies the character to outer with either type 1 or plato, and plato does qualify, if the verse follows the plato theory for the description of the concept.
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Well I suppose the OP's question itself is kind of vague.
What exactly do they mean by outer?
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They start getting a tier starting from Low 1-A all the way to High 1-A+.
1A
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Well again, a concept in a vacuum doesn't have a tier.
A specific concept and what it dictates might.
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I see. But what is the vacuum concept ? Since his question was about Type 1 concepts and Platonic concepts qualifying for 1A, so i was focused on that.
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Meaning: "A type 1 concept" has no tier.
But: "The type 1 concept of Death, which dictates all of the death in every dimension of this reality." could be Tier 1 or whatever.
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