Pikachu vs Nora Valkyrie

[Cropfist]

Battle of the lightning users. '''Speed is equalized'''.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Nora can absorb any electric attack Pikachu throws at her and use it to make her stronger. Pikachu might be faster but Nora takes this after a good fight.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

I say Pikachu since while she absorbs electricity. Pikachu is smart and could just use iron tail or quick attack along with moves like grass knot are some unpredictable attacks.

 

[Sirius_The_EM_Troll]

Pikachu for the same reasons Pikachu beat Yang.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

I say Pikachu since while she absorbs electricity. Pikachu is smart and could just use iron tail or quick attack along with moves like grass knot are some unpredictable attacks.

Since when can Pikachu learn grass knot?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Pikachu for the same reasons Pikachu beat Yang.

Yang couldn't absorb Pikachu's attacks like Nora can

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

	TM	Move	Type	Cat.	Pwr.	Acc.	PP	Contest	Appeal	Jamming
[1]​	TM06	Toxic	Poison​	Status​	—	90%	10	Clever​	3 ÔÖÑÔÖÑÔÖÑ	0
[2]​	TM10	Hidden Power	Normal​	Special​	60	100%	15	Clever​	3 ÔÖÑÔÖÑÔÖÑ	0
[3]​	TM16	Light Scree	Psychic​	Status​	—	—%	30	Beautiful​	2 ÔÖÑÔÖÑ	0
[4]​	TM17	Protect	Normal​	Status​	—	—%	10	Cute​	2 ÔÖÑÔÖÑ	0
[5]​	TM18	Rain Dance	Water​	Status​	—	—%	5	Beautiful​	1 ÔÖÑ	0
[6]​	TM21	Frustratio	Normal​	Physical​	—	100%	20	Cute​	2 ÔÖÑÔÖÑ	3 ÔÖÑÔÖÑÔÖÑ
[7]​	TM24	Thunderbolt	Electric​	Special​	90	100%	15	Cool​	4 ÔÖÑÔÖÑÔÖÑÔÖÑ	0
[8]​	TM25	Thunder	Electric​	Special​	110	70%	10	Cool​	1 ÔÖÑ	0
[9]​	TM27	Retur	Normal​	Physical​	—	100%	20	Cute​	4 ÔÖÑÔÖÑÔÖÑÔÖÑ	0
[10]​	TM28	Dig	Ground​	Physical​	80	100%	10	Tough​	2 ÔÖÑÔÖÑ	0
[11]​	TM31	Brick Break	Fighting​	Physical​	75	100%	15	Cool​	4 ÔÖÑÔÖÑÔÖÑÔÖÑ	0
[12]​	TM32	Double Team	Normal​	Status​	—	—%	15	Cool​	1 ÔÖÑ	0
[13]​	TM42	Facade	Normal​	Physical​	70	100%	20	Cute​	2 ÔÖÑÔÖÑ	0
[14]​	TM44	Rest	Psychic​	Status​	—	—%	10	Cute​	1 ÔÖÑ	0
[15]​	TM45	Attract	Normal​	Status​	—	100%	15	Cute​	2 ÔÖÑÔÖÑ	0
[16]​	TM48	Round	Normal​	Special​	60	100%	15	Beautiful​	2 ÔÖÑÔÖÑ	0
[17]​	TM49	Echoed Voice	Normal​	Special​	40	100%	15	Beautiful​	3 ÔÖÑÔÖÑÔÖÑ	0
[18]​	TM56	Fling	Dark​	Physical​	—	100%	10	Cute​	3 ÔÖÑÔÖÑÔÖÑ	0
[19]​	TM57	Charge Beam	Electric​	Special​	50	90%	10	Beautiful​	1 ÔÖÑ	0
[20]​	TM70	Flash	Normal​	Status​	—	100%	20	Beautiful​	3 ÔÖÑÔÖÑÔÖÑ	0
[21]​	TM72	Volt Switch	Electric​	Special​	70	100%	20	Cool​	4 ÔÖÑÔÖÑÔÖÑÔÖÑ	0
[22]​	TM73	Thunder Wave	Electric​	Status​	—	100%	20	Cool​	1 ÔÖÑ	3 ÔÖÑÔÖÑÔÖÑ
[23]​	TM86	Grass Knot	Grass​	Special​	—	100%	20	Cute​	1 ÔÖÑ	0
[24]​	TM87	Swagger	Normal​	Status​	—	90%	15	Cute​	3 ÔÖÑÔÖÑÔÖÑ	0
[25]​	TM88	Sleep Talk	Normal​	Status​	—	—%	10	Cute​	1 ÔÖÑ	0
[26]​	TM90	Substitute	Normal​	Status​	—	—%	10	Cute​	2 ÔÖÑÔÖÑ	0
[27]​	TM93	Wild Charge	Electric​	Physical​	90	100%	15	Tough​	6 ÔÖÑÔÖÑÔÖÑÔÖÑÔÖÑÔÖÑ	0
[28]​	TM94	Rock Smash XY	Fighting​	Physical​	40	100%	15	Tough​	4 ÔÖÑÔÖÑÔÖÑÔÖÑ	0
[29]​	TM94	Secret Power ORAS	Normal​	Physical​	70	100%	20	Clever​	1 ÔÖÑ	0
[30]​	TM100	Confide	Normal​	Status​	—	—%	20	Cute​	3 ÔÖÑÔÖÑÔÖÑ	0
[31]​	HM04	Strength	Normal​	Physical​	80	100%	15

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[The_real_cal_howard]

Couldn't Pikachu drown Nora with Surf?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

I dont think we count TMs as part of their actual moveset

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

They did so for Deoxys during a vs battle and it was okay.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Which one? I was told before that it wasnt allowed

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Here ya go. It's long believe me.

https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/128599

 

[TheMightyRegulator]

It's not. They don't learn it in the wild and if we aren't shown it was performed in any other media then we can't assume a Pokemon at their highest capacity can do so either.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Since when? It was allowed a while ago.I didn't get the memo that that was no longer allowed.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

But shouldn't it be allowed since it has been shown that pokemon can learn moves in the wild that it usually could never learn except via tm?

 

[TheMightyRegulator]

TMs are artificial means that Pokemon use to gain new abilities. There's a reason why we don't list them on the profiles. Again, unless they're shown to use them in other media they are not regarded as related to a Pokemon's potential or abilities.

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

TMs are artificial means that Pokemon use to gain new abilities. There's a reason why we don't list them on the profiles. Again, unless they're shown to use them in other media they are not regarded as related to a Pokemon's potential or abilities.

Pretty much this.

For instance, Zapdos (in Gen I) could learn Reflect via TM. However, Reflect is not a move it can learn naturally. This means, unless Zapdos belongs to a trainer who has specifically taught it Reflect, we cannot assume wild Zapdos can use it, as it is otherwise impossible without the TM.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Well that's a little irritating but understandable. Either way those moves don't really mean much in the grand scheme of things. Pikachu still has moves like surf and iron tail.

 

[Megasean3000]

Main bulk of Pikachu's attacks is Electric, and Nora can absorb it and make her stronger. Even if you take her Semblance out of the equation, Nora fought creatures hundreds of times bigger than Pikachu, swatting something only a foot and four inches would be child's play for the queen of the castle =P

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Size literally means nothing here... Also pikachu has access to moves like agility, Double Team and Slam.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

He can confuse her with sweet kiss as well.

 

[Hizack123]

I go with Nora.

 

[Hizack123]

Size literally means nothing here... Also pikachu has access to moves like agility, Double Team and Slam.

Speed it equalized.

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

Your vote can't count except you provide a reason.

 

[Hizack123]

Your vote can't count except you provide a reason.

Well i think Nora is stronger and with her semblance even she can't take strongest attack of pikachu it still should be enough for Nora to use that power and speed in short burst to catch pikachu off guard and i don't think pikachu can solo RWBY verse, Ozpin or Cinder easy biltz Pikachu head off.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Er, Pikachu holds the AP advantage and the speed advantage. By a good portion at that.

 

[Hizack123]

Er, Pikachu holds the AP advantage and the speed advantage. By a good portion at that.

Speed is equalized.

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

The thread is probably outdated.