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most of the abilities on Naruto's profile he doesn't really use much in character.looking at the profiles, not alot goku can do here
so naruto is much stronger and haxier? how is there a chance goku can win this?I think Naruto has this one in the bag for a couple of reasons.
Firstly, unless this changed while I wasn't aware, I believe Goku is only baseline Moon level (he's a bit higher due to a scaling chain of course, but the moon level feat is baseline I believe. (Obviously correct me if I'm wrong lol)
This should give Naruto, who's sitting at around 200 Exatons, a substantial AP advantage here.
Adult Naruto is nowhere near as creative or as versatile as he used to be in his youth, but he does still have a lot of advantages over Goku. His regeneration is still going to be a big advantage here, as he'll continuously recover and heal from damage.
He doesn't utilize Rasenshuriken and clone spam nearly as much as he used to, but he still uses the RS and a few clones here and there, so it could come up.
He still uses chakra arms at least, which give him nice additional range, dexterity, and maneuverability.
Naruto has pretty impressive sensory abilities that should give him the edge in close combat, but admittedly it's not as highlighted or showcased as it used to be.
Goku at this point isn't that adept at flight and spamming Ki blasts, so I don't see that being a big issue. (Not to mention that Naruto technically can match him in those departments)
Overall, I think it'll be a good fight, but I see Naruto edging Goku out FRA.
Goku literally has all of these as well lol.how does Goku deal with naruto sage enhanced senses, extrasensory and analytic prediction?
He doesn't really spam them anymore, so I can see Goku countering them with Ki blasts.if the fight drags on im sure naruto would resort to shadow clones
Naruto is too, 200 exatons < Toneri <<< 50% BSM naruto << BSM naruto << SPSM naruto < SPSM hokage narutoGoku is much much higher than baseline though.
yes, literally every body he fights almost has iti didn't watch childhood goku but i doubt its on the same level, has he fought against other characters with analytical prediction?
hokage naruto is not considered stronger than his teen self on the wiki, we just scale him above the Toneri calc.Naruto is too, 200 exatons < Toneri <<< 50% BSM naruto << BSM naruto << SPSM naruto < SPSM hokage naruto
w-why?hokage naruto is not considered stronger than his teen self on the wiki
Nah this is bullshit. BSM naruto ****** toneri and SPSM is stronger than BSM by a lot.hokage naruto is not considered stronger than his teen self on the wiki, we just scale him above the Toneri calc.
No, not quite. The 180 is for base Roshi. His moon level feat was performed with a max power Kamehameha in Buff form.Goku is much much higher than baseline though.
Roshi blew up the moon with a power level of 180, by the saiyan saga Goku was already at 8,618.
along with a long-ass scaling chain. I doubt the gap is that large.
there is a discussion rule against scaling momoshiki to Kaguya so yeahwas it rejected? or are people planning crts in the future?
RIP yeah this is a stompNo, not quite. The 180 is for base Roshi. His moon level feat was performed with a max power Kamehameha in Buff form.
So it's more like:
Buff MAX Kamehameha (baseline 5-C) > Buff Roshi > 180 PL
Also, isn't this Raditz Saga Goku? His power level only exceeded 8000 after training for a year with King Kai. His power level during the Raditz Saga was around 416, and only reached around 925 with a maximum power Kamehameha.
Change this to saiyan saga piccolo, he massively upscales from 177.6 exatons, and has regen and SBC and stuff.RIP yeah this is a stomp
Yeah, that could work actually.Change this to saiyan saga piccolo, he massively upscales from 177.6 exatons, and has regen and SBC and stuff.
good ideaChange this to saiyan saga piccolo, he massively upscales from 177.6 exatons, and has regen and SBC and stuff.
He never uses this lmao.plus Boil Release.
Opponent was changed to PiccoloDon't know much about Goku but it seems Naruto has the advantage according to a lot of people. I think I'll vote for Naruto since he has AP advantage and haxes.
Sorry, I meant Piccolo. I'm voting for Naruto based on SoulofCinder's arguments.Opponent was changed to Piccolo
lol, to be fair when it comes to that other thread, it did say Full Power and didn't mention about being in character. So yes, in this thread, i agree Naruto ain't doing the crazy stuff he did when he was younger.*EVERYONE IS IN CHARACTER
AP difference very small, clones can be dealt with easily with ki blast spam or danmaku, omni directional ki blasts or shockwaves or just hand to hand works. Rasen shuriken is strong but I think piccolo can dodge or blast it with another powerful move but if he gets hit it's bad although piccolo can regen too. Naruto very rarely uses boil release. Piccolo has a big skill advantageSo now there's a much smaller AP Difference that Naruto should still hold the lead in, plus Clones, plus Rasenshuriken, plus Boil Release.
Clones have equal dura so danmaku will just do normal damage to them, Rasenshuriken is also homing and Piccolos regen isn't enough to regen from itAP difference very small, clones can be dealt with easily with ki blast spam or danmaku, omni directional ki blasts or shockwaves or just hand to hand works. Rasen shuriken is strong but I think piccolo can dodge or blast it with another powerful move but if he gets hit it's bad although piccolo can regen too. Naruto very rarely uses boil release. Piccolo has a big skill advantage
why notClones have equal dura so danmaku will just do normal damage to them, Rasenshuriken is also homing and Piccolos regen isn't enough to regen from it
Rasenshuriken messes up literally everything including stuff like internal organs which Piccolo could not easily regenerate also Bijuu cloak has limited regen neg for up too low godlywhy not
it does also it messes up internal organsi thought i just messes u up at a cellular level