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Reconstruction and regeneration should be the same in this case?.
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Pennywise VS Kumagawa Misogi.
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Seems like it
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But this one like a type of regen produced by a external force, not from the own character abilities I suppose.
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The avatar has it's own regen and then he has the type 9 from the 1-A
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I know, Pennywise's 1-A self pushes further the Avatar regen (Low-High). For example, if somehow the Avatar was vaped by a Ki blasts from any Z figher, the 1-A Pennywise would likely be able to recreate said Avatar.
That's why 1-A smurfery and above is so Broken lol.
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How can he spam another when kumagawa completely erase it
It can't be returned unless non fiction
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u know he can create separate entities/avatars right?
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Eh I thought he gonna erase the concept of creation from the original owner illusion creation
Like not from the avatar but the real body to make that he unavailable to make it anymore
Like not from the avatar but the real body to make that he unavailable to make it anymore
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This looks like a stomp for Pennywise ngl, 1-A smurfery go brrrrr
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could be incap
kumagawa just erase his avatar and concept and pennywise just gonna repeat what his doing
both spam
not to mention physical manifestation vs imagination manifestation
speed equalized
wait can kumagawa blitz?
kumagawa just erase his avatar and concept and pennywise just gonna repeat what his doing
both spam
not to mention physical manifestation vs imagination manifestation
speed equalized
wait can kumagawa blitz?
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Dunno
But u seem to have forgotten about the 1-A hax
But u seem to have forgotten about the 1-A hax
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Pennywise's eye contact based madness hax + likely thought-based disease hax, plus the fact that he can keep coming back. Pennywise can just wise up when he figures that his avatars keep being erased, and simply stay away for some time and then return and easily one-shot/disease hax/madness hax him. At worst an icon, but Pennywise's 1-A smurfs make him too hard to actually put down for some time before he actually gets you.
Especially the fact that Misogawa isn't bloodlusted, so he's in-character and would obviously not be able to do his wincons as effectively as Pennywise.
Especially the fact that Misogawa isn't bloodlusted, so he's in-character and would obviously not be able to do his wincons as effectively as Pennywise.
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Firstly pennywise using his avatar which is 7-A
Secondly doesn't his conceptual manipulation erasure effect all types of conceptual manipulation?
Secondly doesn't his conceptual manipulation erasure effect all types of conceptual manipulation?
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well doesn't his madness hax need to eye contact?
misogi via thinking for all fiction
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physically yes, he however has 1-A hax
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He's physically 7-A and has 1-A hax which Misogi has no real counter or resistance to plus, you did not address Misogi's in-character weakness. Misogi won't be as haxy given that his character seems to revolve around the fact that he's so insecure that he can't actually use his powers to their full potential.
So even if Pennywise's avatar dies, he can take advantage of Misogi's weakness and come back at a later period due to his immortality being linked to his 1-A self. Which his concept manip has no evidence of reaching as high as 1-A, so his concept manip wouldn't even tickle Pennywise's true form, so he can still return to life repeatedly.
So even if Pennywise's avatar dies, he can take advantage of Misogi's weakness and come back at a later period due to his immortality being linked to his 1-A self. Which his concept manip has no evidence of reaching as high as 1-A, so his concept manip wouldn't even tickle Pennywise's true form, so he can still return to life repeatedly.
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Sounds very NLF as well
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Anyway, I'm voting Pennywise, Misogi can potentially indefinitely incap him until he gets a win, but Pennywise has way more potent hax plus the confidence to pull them off, especially since both are in-character. Pennywise's connection to his 1-A self is being heavily downplayed and even ignored, so I'll just leave my vote and call it done.
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Oh so the madness hax need to physically eye contact or what?
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Pennywise hax is 1-A aka madness hax
Then he needs to look at kumagawa to make him become madness and die
And he revive again and doesn't he can think that when pennywise slightly look at him but then he can just book marker and all fiction
The thing is pennywise need physical interaction
Kumagawa state he doesn't need physical interaction via just thinking
So in his 2nd revive he can just think to book marker and then all fiction
It state that book marker capable to sealed non corpereality
Then he needs to look at kumagawa to make him become madness and die
And he revive again and doesn't he can think that when pennywise slightly look at him but then he can just book marker and all fiction
The thing is pennywise need physical interaction
Kumagawa state he doesn't need physical interaction via just thinking
So in his 2nd revive he can just think to book marker and then all fiction
It state that book marker capable to sealed non corpereality
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u know madness does not just disappear just cus u come back right? what u saw still remains
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But the thing is he need to physically eye contact with it
Also dying many times and getting much experience probably gonna make the madness hax become nothing as him experience it and die and repeat
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Those who are capable of perceiving, understanding and/or experiencing that which is naturally extreme or incomprehensible should be able to ignore this
Yeah he experiencing it each dead or I was wrong?
Yeah he experiencing it each dead or I was wrong?
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unless he has shown to adapt to a 1-A stuff, no
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Eh all fiction reset everything and he become fresh yeah the cause and effect and
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not that useful when the opponent has Type 4
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I mean I'm pointing to kumagawa where after his own dead become nothing so that he become fresh like respawn
And thus needing him to make an eye contact again
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Mindhaxes if he making eye contact with him
Yes it is true kumagawa died but all fiction making the cause and effect because of his dead become nothing from madness
Doesn't that reset effects
Yes it is true kumagawa died but all fiction making the cause and effect because of his dead become nothing from madness
Doesn't that reset effects
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Acasuality type 4 says hi, also, I hardly doubt he would be able to neg the effects of a 1-A.
If Kumagawa somehow destroyed the Avatar (which I highly doubt becouse It's High 7-A and he is only tier 8 physically).
He couldn't do nothing about Pennywise's true form rebuilding the Avatar, and/or if he incaps the first Avatar, IT's true form just senda another and All FICTION and Book maker would be useless against a 1-A.
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Eh isn't acausality is based on user
Does it scales with power?
Does it scales with power?
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Hmm
If pennywise start with eye contact kumagawa is already incap because each time he spawned pennywise need gonna have eye contact with him
If it's start with avatar and then the real body
Kumagawa might just gonna erase his concept of his own sight of line
And then book marker end up sealing real body pennywise (I wish he can blitz him but due to speed equalized)
But do both of them start with knowing and and having knowledge on both skills or no?
If pennywise start with eye contact kumagawa is already incap because each time he spawned pennywise need gonna have eye contact with him
If it's start with avatar and then the real body
Kumagawa might just gonna erase his concept of his own sight of line
And then book marker end up sealing real body pennywise (I wish he can blitz him but due to speed equalized)
But do both of them start with knowing and and having knowledge on both skills or no?
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Penny's true form is why do i even bother amount of infinities above Kumagawa, and that type 4, 8, and 9 area attached to it, and the 1-A madness eventually just happens and incaps Kuma, wheras the Kuma can't stop Pennywise in the slightest, this seems like a stomp.
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Type 4 and 8?
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I forgot he didnt have those lol
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God, Kumagawa smacks the avatar, the true form sends down another avatar, Kumagawa smacks that one, rinse and repeat until Pennywise eventually madness haxs. This isn't a stomp, this is a spite.
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How he would "Smack" him?. If somehow the Avatar is fully destroyed, Pennywise's true form would likely recreate said Avatar without the need of sending another.
Kumagawa doesn't have the AP to put a High 7-A down.
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its called book maker and all fiction, this is a curb stomp, as the person who has been spamming canon Pennywise you should know this, you put someone with 1-A madness manipulation against someone who just is at most a 4-D smurf. This spite match should be closed.
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I meant by haxing the avatar
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Yeah, if he Haxxes the Avatar, Pennywise would need to send another Avatar to the fight.
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