Cairne has titanic upscaling from 259.80 Megatons and Thor seems to scale to the 348.8 Megaton value.
However not really IC for Thor to range spam
Yes, but Thor does begin with a blast of lightning in his encounters. For example against Tony.
Cairne does take less damage from lightning though, and he's got the durability to factank it otherwise
I would also assume that Cairne has the superior cqc ability, yes? If Thor does get pushed back significantly in that regard, I believe he would begin to play at range.
How smart is cairne in terms of combat skill?
Cairne is like, equal to Varian in skill. He's much better than a Garrosh who just got his weapon, and has a statement of being one of the most accomplished fighters on Azeroth.
I think it is fair to say Cairne might win most of the time. So i'll vote for cairne for reasons that have been stated within this thread and above this comment that i have written below the others, with due dilligence.
Cairne is like, 2 one-shots and a few stomps above his value, so yeah.
Even if they're normal shockwaves without the added electricity, Thor still resists them as he can withstand his own shockwaves such as the one that leveled everything within a mile when he struck Cap's shield.
With massive shockwaves.
You'd have to Overpower Cairne's tensile strength for that and... Not happening.
Get it accepted in a calc blog and put on the profile, not some random post that literally says "bro that's probably Class P lol" (not that I don't trust that it is, but thems the rules).
It's not scaleable to LS though, as basically railed on about earlier in that thread, there's a pretty big difference between tensile strength and lifting strength.
Really? Weird, I would've thought they'd be bundled under the same thing. Regardless, I'd imagine it'd still need to be properly called and accepted to be used.
Yeah have fun convincing Chariot to do that, cause it's not a fodder feat(Though it's tier 7) so I don't feel the need to get it called for consistency
I mean....I'm not the one trying to use the feat, you are. Convince him to do it, or just don't use it as an argument, as it doesn't have a defined and accepted value.
Get Tensile Strength values on profiles then, I'll wait!
Not my argument, not my problem. YOU get tensile strength on profiles to use in VS Battles, YOU get the feat you brought up called and accepted and added to the profile, and then YOU can actually use it.
Okay then Cairne rips Thor's head off with much better AP scaling because clearly his tensile strength is dogshit
That is stupid, you can't not just ignore something because it isn't on the profiles (mostly because of a technicality).
He doesn't scale thousands of times higher than Thors AP, unlike Thor vs his Lifting Strength; at best, he might vaguely be above him by a little. Do you think you can easily rip off the head of a 10 year old because you're 2x stronger than him?
This isn't merely not accepting it because it isn't on the profile; this isn't accepting it because it doesn't even do the bare ******* minimum for a feat (literally being called lmao).
Doesn't matter, Cairne's Durability is a fair bit higher then Thor's, and so is his AP, if we want to exclusively go on the profiles and not use physics, Thor can't tear Cairne apart due to having lower AP, and LS wouldn't change that.
Alright, I'll admit, it was a bit too out of line to just ignore Tensile Strength at all; but, it still doesn't matter, because you're just attempting to prove that his tensile strength in high enough to not get ripped in half with....a comment vaguely saying that it would get that high. No calculation, no approval, nothing. Really not that hard to follow the guidelines for every proper feat with value on the site.
Give me one Class P LS feat for WoW that scales to Cairne
Thor didn't have any problem grappling with Hulk who is also larger than him and I doubt he would continue to trade blows at melee range if his opponent clearly has the advantage.
Not really sure what you’re asking me to do here? I mean, my point is that there isn’t one yet, or at least not one calced.
Who is this “they” that you’re talking about? Is it the guy Thor’s fighting?
Not sure how this is relevant, since the other guy doesn’t have anything either lol.
Thor can grapple with The Hulk, who is much larger than Cairne. And even if he couldn’t, that doesn’t stop him from just….grabbing onto one part of his body and grabbing onto another with his superior lifting strength, and then pulling. Or, enter yet, just tossing him into space or really far away.
Yeah, and Hulk is like... 7'8. Cairne is 10 feet tall and even beefier than Hulk.
Damn, really? Weird, I would’ve thought he’d be taller. Disregard my first sentence of the last point, then.
I'm saying it wouldn't be present on the profile cause it's not scaled to lol
Nah, just an orc, who all Tauren are superior to in sheer power/dura, etc.
It's saying both are at major risk, but Cairne has a better shot lol
Show me when Thor has thrown someone far away without following them...
Would Odin consider someone who is repeatedly stated to be a wise warrior who is a better fighter with better leadership than Thor himself unworthy? Make no mistake, Cairne is almost definitely worthy to wield Mjölnir compared to Thor.
I mean I'm just eyeballing Hulk, but he ain't 10 feet. You could probably use Thor's actor's height to size scale Hulk, shouldn't be too hard if you can do the most basic of pixel scaling
Fair enough, I suppose. We really should try and differentiate those, now that you bring it up.
Ahh, that makes more sense then.
Can’t, unfortunately, as I’m not sure he ever really does it in the MCU. But, given his countless battles and over 1000 years of experience, it’s not out of the question that he’d do something similar once he realizes he lifts 2500x the dude he’s fighting.
Tbh Thor can just keep his range with Mjolnir and Lightning (though the latter probably wouldn’t be super effective), as he seems to have a range advantage (technically they’re both in kilometers, but Carine’s Warstomp won’t be great against the guy who can resist like all of its effects on the daily; without that, he’s just extended melee range).
Really depends, honestly. What exactly does Cairne fight for? I mean, technically Thanos would qualify for all the criteria you mentioned, but obviously isn’t worthy to lift it.
Also fair enough, though I looked it up and he seems to be around 8’5-ish; so, still shorter than Cairne, but not by a whole lot.
Eh, I think I’ll switch my vote over to Inconclusive now. Cairne probably does out skill pretty badly, but Thor has a massive lifting advantage and can fight from range very effectively to whittle him down, something that he isn’t opposed to do. But I can definitely see Cairne goating Thor into fighting hand to hand, which he will likely ultimately win.
