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Part 1 Naruto Revision (3rd conversation)

Damage, do you even know what the last thread talked about? It wasn't about jumping Tiers, but about jumping to the other half of the Tier, with the +. The rules for jump Tiers are very different from jumping to the other half
 
@M3X; seeing as there aren't any rules written up anywhere for jumping tiers, I don't see how you could know that.

In theory jumping from one half of a tier to another is no different than jumping from one tier to another.
 
if base Kimimaro is 7-C+ ( 3.42 Kilotons)

than CM2 Kimimaro would be 7-C ( 10x3.42 = 34.2 Kilotons)
 
also when did base sasuke 1 shoted kn0 naruto ?

and base naruto was able to keep up with cm1 sasuke yet u guys saying base sasuke above kn0 that dosnt make sense since cm1 sasuke>base sasuke

https://**********.com/read-online/Naruto-chapter-229.html

base sasuke was getting his butt kick until he unlocked 3t which let him predict naruto attack
 
base naruto did fought cm1 sasuke

https://**********.com/read-online/Naruto-chapter-218.html

kn0 has low 7-C+ ap not dura so hurting him wont make sauke low-7-C+
 
That's a fair point. If Curse Mark Sasuke couldn't one-shot base Naruto, then how can base Sasuke one-shot KN0 Naruto?
 
CS1 Sasuke he takes punch from Naruto, grabs hims on his shirt, send him flying with a punch, then goes back into his base form.
 
and then fights Naruto in base and he was dominating him, and he doesn't use CS1 again until he stabs base Naruto with a chidori and when fights one tailed naruto
 
Omimi said:
base naruto did fought cm1 sasuke

https://**********.com/read-online/Naruto-chapter-218.html

kn0 has low 7-C+ ap not dura so hurting him wont make sauke low-7-C+
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KN0 does have Low 7-C+ durability...
 
Damage3245 said:
That's a fair point. If Curse Mark Sasuke couldn't one-shot base Naruto, then how can base Sasuke one-shot KN0 Naruto?
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2t sasuke actually wasn't able to keep up with kn0 and he was getting beat up very badly

kn0 low dif his fire ball so one

and base Naruto also tank a punch from cm1 sasuke
 
KN0 vs 3 tomoe Sasuke for those who need a reminder.

https://**********.com/read-online/Naruto-chapter-230.html

KN0 does managed to draw blood from sasuke at one point.
 
Yup. So looks like the earlier argument that base Sasuke should scale to 7-C is now false. Nowhere does he one-shot KN0 Naruto.
 
how do u know its casual ?

we dont know its casual or not

and he was also bleed by base naruto punch

base naruto = base sasuke

https://**********.com/read-online/Naruto-chapter-226.html

if we upgrades sasuke than we also have to upgrades base naruto
 
Ha, no. That's a complete joke. KN0 did a small cut near Sasuke's cheek. This is not enough. Try again, Damage
 
Damage3245 said:
Yup. So looks like the earlier argument that base Sasuke should scale to 7-C is now false. Nowhere does he one-shot KN0 Naruto.
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he got upper-hand because of 3t pre-cog https://**********.com/read-online/Naruto-chapter-230.html
 
Precog didn't make Sasuke stronger. He drew blood from Naruto and knock him out. Naruto then used One Tailed form
 
Concius and unable to fight against base Sasuke using his KN0 form. What is your point?
 
M3X said:
Ha, no. That's a complete joke. KN0 did a small cut near Sasuke's cheek. This is not enough. Try again, Damage
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When did I say anything about KN0 damaging Sasuke? I think you're confusing my posts with somebody elses.
 
KN0 Naruto only touched Sasuke when he had 2 Tomoe only. He was blitzed as **** by KN0 Naruto, but still manage to survive all the blows. And then, when Sasuek could reaxt properly, he basically stomped KN0
 
It doesn't have to be a one shot. If someone is Low 7C and is being casually played around then they need a "+"

Same reason if they have a "+" with their tier then that means they need to be upscaled. That was why I posted that thread above cause that was what was accepted
 
M3X said:
Precog didn't make Sasuke stronger. He drew blood from Naruto and knock him out. Naruto then used One Tailed form
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yes it didn't make Sasuke stronger than

but 2t sasuke was still unable to overpower base naruto at full power who is much weaker than kn0?

https://v217.**********.com/manga/Naruto/0227-012.png

so do usee anything wrong here

kn0>base naruto =base sasuke>kn0
 
@BlackeJan; I'm fine with base Sasuke scaling to Low 7-C+, but that's it.
 
No Omimi your scan doesn't say that Sasuke was unable to overpower Naruto. Rasengan was always potrayed to be stronger than Chidori, that's it.

Sasuke scales to 7-C, that's all
 
Sasuke does defeat Vermilion Naruto very casually, he literally only hit him (not jutsu or anything, just basic punches and kicks) and Naruto was so hurt he said he couldn't get up and only DID get up once Kurama gave him chakra.

And just because Naruto survived hits from CS1 Sasuke doesn't mean Sasuke is weak cause the first blow was a very simple one (just a punch) which knocked Naruto all the way in the Valley and then he used it again to catch Naruto of guard (he stated he used it for this reason, since if he tried to do something else Naruto would just use the Rasengan).

And finally, Sasuke coughing blood doesn't make it an anti feat cause base Naruto did the same and no one in their sane mind would scale Base Naruto to CS1 Sasuke, heck Sasuke could just fight fine after the beatdown Vermilion Naruto gave him and he doesn't have an advanced healing like Naruto has cause Kurama, so the fact that he took blows from, could fight just fine afterwards and two shot Vermilion Naruto with just basic attacks, No Chidori or anything shows he can upscale.
 
Except Sasuke never one-shot Naruto, except for when he pierced him through the chest with a chidori.

Curse Mark Sasuke hits base Naruto multiple times and fails to knock him out.

It is a contradictory to then try and scale Sasuke for "one-shotting" KN0 Naruto when this never happened.
 
M3X said:
Concius and unable to fight against base Sasuke using his KN0 form. What is your point?
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https://**********.com/read-online/Naruto-chapter-229.html

My point is that KN0 was clearly able to damage base Sasuke. The third tomoe didn´t made Sasuke stronger, it only gave him precog.

Edit: Imo, At least Low 7-C+ is fine for Base Sasuke.
 
Damage3245 said:
Except Sasuke never one-shot Naruto, except for when he pierced him through the chest with a chidori.

Curse Mark Sasuke hits base Naruto multiple times and fails to knock him out.

It is a contradictory to then try and scale Sasuke for "one-shotting" KN0 Naruto when this never happened.
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Except it literally happened twice.
 
@LordTracer; hitting a character really hard so that they go flying through the air is not one-shotting them.
 
Knocking them down to the point that they can't get back up and need the help of an external source is.
 
Except Sasuke never one-shot Naruto, except for when he pierced him through the chest with a chidori.

How can you be ignorant like? Why do you always have to make simple things difficult, with an excuse of always wanting the most accurate?

Sasuke did one shot him with casual kicks and blows. Naruto was unable to do anything to defend or react to Sasuke's attack. Naruto fell to the ground, not unconscious, but being unable to do anything. You don't have to knock out a person to be considered a one shot. KN0 just didn't have enough durability to withstand Sasuke's blows. This falls into one shot.

Curse Mark Sasuke hits base Naruto multiple times and fails to knock him out.

Literally the same thing as the counter argument above. Sasuke overpowered Naruto. Put this on your head: Naruto only managed to touch Sasuke when Naruto was in KN0 form and Sasuke with only 2 Tomoe.

"but Naruto wasn't one shot by Sasuke's CM1 form"

  • Base Sasuke overpowered Base Naruto
  • CM1 Sasuke overpowered Base Naruto
  • Base Sasuke overpowered KN0 when he could react
  • Sasuke survived 2 hits from One Tail Naruto
And you are going to tell me that Sasuke isn't superior to Naruto because his CM1 form didn't overpowered Naruto?
 
killing intent cm1 sasuke vs base naruto

https://**********.com/read-online/Naruto-chapter-227.html

yet sasuke still fail to seriously hurt base naruto with punch/kick

the thing is sasuke is needed cm1 to overpower/kill base naruto


so what mad u guys think that base sasuke above kn0


when we know he is not even above base naruto without 3t precog(3t does not make sasuke stronger it only gtant him precog/hax)
 
Ok my bad, Sasuke didn't one shotted him, he two shotted him which is almost the same thing.

Even then, Sasuke only used CS1 to knock Naruto away to test his new power and the other time to gain the speed boost to catch Naruto off guard and Chidori him in the lung, that's the only time he used the Curse Mark until Fox Cloak happened.

Aside from that he didn't think it was necessary to use, even when fighting Vermilion Naruto.

Look, would a "At Least Low 7-C+, Possibly 7-C" rating be ok? I feel that's an ok option.
 
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