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Lady stabilized a multiverse, while Frisk can destroy timelines... The SAVE and LOAD would get countered by Time Manipulation unless I'm missing something. Then in the end, it comes down to if Frisk has enough determination to actually combat her Death Manipulation. All-in-all, I think The Lady of Pain wins or is inconclusive.

And if SAVE and LOAD gets countered by Time Manipulation, then a good ol' BFR via Spatial Manipulation should be another way for Lady to win.
 
LephyrTheRevanchist said:
Lady stabilized a multiverse, while Frisk can destroy timelines... The SAVE and LOAD would get countered by Time Manipulation unless I'm missing something. Then in the end, it comes down to if Frisk has enough determination to actually combat her Death Manipulation. All-in-all, I think The Lady of Pain wins or is inconclusive.
And if SAVE and LOAD gets countered by Time Manipulation, then a good ol' BFR via Spatial Manipulation should be another way for Lady to win.
The Lady of Pain more or less instantly kills a physical body. It's described as the pain of a thousand knives digging into every inch of skin, and then the pain kills you. This is due to merely looking at the LoP. She also has excellent time and space hax, and can easily BFR.


LoP wins.
 
@Omega

Frisk survived Asriel's onslaught via Determination. I don't think the feeling of some nights piercing skin can surpass the feeling of not doing anything and still getting bombarded with f-ing stars, lasers, etc. And all of that directly to his/her soul and he/she still kept coming back. Again, if Lady's Death Manipulation can't get past Frisk's inmense levels of Determination, it would come down to BFR. And if that doesn't work, inconclusive.

Edit: I meant knives, lol
 
LoyalservantofInti said:
BFR is one of my victory conditions.
The thing is if she can actually BFR Frisk. If Lady's Time Manipulation can counter his/her SAVE and LOAD, then yes, it becomes a possibility.
 
LephyrTheRevanchist said:
@Omega
Frisk survived Asriel's onslaught via Determination. I don't think the feeling of some nights piercing skin can surpass the feeling of not doing anything and still getting bombarded with f-ing stars, lasers, etc. And all of that directly to his/her soul and he/she still kept coming back. Again, if Lady's Death Manipulation can't get past Frisk's inmense levels of Determination, it would come down to BFR. And if that doesn't work, inconclusive.

Edit: I meant knives, lol
The knives thing isn't really how it works. The closest description to this would be pain in literally every cell in your body, followed by death. This attack can even kill creatures that don't feel pai at all. This isn't attacking the soul, this is turning the corporeal form into mush and shattering the psyche due to sheer agony. If that doesn't work, the LoP's time/space manipulation would enable BFR, and thus the win.
 
@Omega

Then be more specific. And if she can mindfuck, then I'm pretty sure she would get past Frisk's determination, you know... Making xer not being determined at all.

And again, that profile of Lady needs a fricking cleanup.
 
LephyrTheRevanchist said:
@Omega
Then be more specific. And if she can mindfuck, then I'm pretty sure she would get past Frisk's determination, you know... Making xer not being determined at all.

And again, that profile of Lady needs a fricking cleanup.
It's kind of a metaphysical thing. The Lady of Pain is pain, after all. The sheer agony of everything in the multiverse radiates off of her like radiation from an exploding star. It shatters the mind.
 
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