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Overwatch: Big revisions that took a year. or two.

It's a scaling chain, there shall be scans(or references) when the characters are individually revised. And it's also subject to change.
The circumstances of what happened actually don't matter because the feat isn't exactly usable in a combat setting the way you want it to be, as it doesn't apply to reactions and only how they process information already received. They don't "react" to these subtle differences occurring in real-time but instead when they hear it their hyper-advanced programming is able to analyze these slight differences, which is how they recognize it.

It would be like us trying to decipher the difference in something firing 2000 rpm vs. 1999 rpm, our minds aren't trained to adequately tell the difference whereas theirs are, not through reactions but processing after the fact.

I'm just saying no to the speed scaling here. Sorry.
By the way Abstractions, What would this give Reaper? More specifically look at Reinhardt's eyes in that scan.(if you need if better quality I can do that too lol)
 
Unless Reinhardt is fully blind, I don't see why that would grant anything, cause he can still see. The most that would grant is possibly Social Influencing
 
Just thought I'd list everything Genji can Deflect that could potentially warrant an upgrade as far as speed.
Pick which one you think would yield the highest results and calc it
  • He can deflect every single one of Dva's rapid fire shotgun
  • He can deflect every pellet of Doomfists shotgun
  • He can deflect Hog's large shotgun blast as well as his entire ultimate
  • He can deflect both Hammond's dual machine guns
  • He can deflect Ashe's shotgun ability entirely
  • He can deflect every missile in Pharah's ultimate
  • He can deflect Reaper's shotguns
  • He can deflect Sojurn's Railgun shots
  • He can deflect Torbjorn's shotgun blasts
  • He can deflect every single on of Rammatra's projectiles
That's about all the major things he can deflect, do note that all of these projectiles can be deflects at point-blank range.
 
Just thought I'd list everything Genji can Deflect that could potentially warrant an upgrade as far as speed.
Pick which one you think would yield the highest results and calc it
  • He can deflect every single one of Dva's rapid fire shotgun
  • He can deflect every pellet of Doomfists shotgun
  • He can deflect Hog's large shotgun blast as well as his entire ultimate
  • He can deflect both Hammond's dual machine guns
  • He can deflect Ashe's shotgun ability entirely
  • He can deflect every missile in Pharah's ultimate
  • He can deflect Reaper's shotguns
  • He can deflect Sojurn's Railgun shots
  • He can deflect Torbjorn's shotgun blasts
  • He can deflect every single on of Rammatra's projectiles
That's about all the major things he can deflect, do note that all of these projectiles can be deflects at point-blank range.
Of those, on top of bastion's assault mode gun, the only really calcable weapons are the rockets and hammond's guns
 
Not Sojurn's railgun?
You could just assume shotgun speeds for all the shotgun feats as well.
Not really, seeing as we dont have irl handheld railguns and the only thing we have to compare it to are the massive railgun cannons in development

Shotguns are tricky because it's not a single projectile
 
It's a scaling chain, there shall be scans(or references) when the characters are individually revised. And it's also subject to change.
Do you mean individually revised in their own CRTs? Cause if not, you really should still have scans/references here.
 
Do you mean individually revised in their own CRTs? Cause if not, you really should still have scans/references here.
Yes, that's literally the main thing, I don't even have a sandbox for most of these characters, they will be done one by one because that is the most organized way to do this, this is to get things like AP accepted, once that is, with a decent grace period for people to get in arguments, the thread can be closed and I can release the master fister revision.
 
Yes, that's literally the main thing, I don't even have a sandbox for most of these characters, they will be done one by one because that is the most organized way to do this, this is to get things like AP accepted, once that is, with a decent grace period for people to get in arguments, the thread can be closed and I can release the master fister revision.
Okay, all good then.
 
Not really, seeing as we dont have irl handheld railguns and the only thing we have to compare it to are the massive railgun cannons in development

Shotguns are tricky because it's not a single projectile
Yeah that's the point.
Shotguns have tons of tiny pellets he has to deflect in the same amount of time as a normal bullet
 
The circumstances of what happened actually don't matter because the feat isn't exactly usable in a combat setting the way you want it to be, as it doesn't apply to reactions and only how they process information already received. They don't "react" to these subtle differences occurring in real-time but instead when they hear it their hyper-advanced programming is able to analyze these slight differences, which is how they recognize it.

It would be like us trying to decipher the difference in something firing 2000 rpm vs. 1999 rpm, our minds aren't trained to adequately tell the difference whereas theirs are, not through reactions but processing after the fact.

I'm just saying no to the speed scaling here. Sorry.
I'm assuming your fine with AP scaling, right?
 
Yeah that's the point.
Shotguns have tons of tiny pellets he has to deflect in the same amount of time as a normal bullet
The problem is, at point blank range the pellets would be closer together as they spread in a cone pattern, meaning he would need to move less distance than if he were further away
 
Just thought I'd list everything Genji can Deflect that could potentially warrant an upgrade as far as speed.
Pick which one you think would yield the highest results and calc it
  • He can deflect every single one of Dva's rapid fire shotgun
  • He can deflect every pellet of Doomfists shotgun
  • He can deflect Hog's large shotgun blast as well as his entire ultimate
  • He can deflect both Hammond's dual machine guns
  • He can deflect Ashe's shotgun ability entirely
  • He can deflect every missile in Pharah's ultimate
  • He can deflect Reaper's shotguns
  • He can deflect Sojurn's Railgun shots
  • He can deflect Torbjorn's shotgun blasts
  • He can deflect every single on of Rammatra's projectiles
That's about all the major things he can deflect, do note that all of these projectiles can be deflects at point-blank range.
Id be willing to get clips of these instances at point blank range
Though id need someone to be a test dummy
 
Id be willing to get clips of these instances at point blank range
Though id need someone to be a test dummy
Most of those can't be calced tho lol

Not really, seeing as we dont have irl handheld railguns and the only thing we have to compare it to are the massive railgun cannons in development

Shotguns are tricky because it's not a single projectile
Well we DO have a type of handheld railgun, but that shoots disks and not very fast or hard
 
Okay how do you calc Roadhog's gun, how do you calc Ramattra's shit, how do you calc Mei's icicles, how do you calc Pharah raining justice on Genji's bitch ass?
1. Find the distance from Genji
2. Find the timeframe using average shotgun speed
3. Find the amount of pellets fired in a single blast by shooting a wall
4. Find the distance Genji would have to move to block all those projectiles in that found timeframe
5. Profit
 
1. Find the distance from Genji
2. Find the timeframe using average shotgun speed
3. Find the amount of pellets fired in a single blast by shooting a wall
4. Find the distance Genji would have to move to block all those projectiles in that found timeframe
5. Profit
Roadhog doesn't use anything near your average shotgun in any way shape or form, so you can't fulfill the second step.
 
You are really stretching saying junker queens doesn't count
Not really, with that reloading mechanism it's really tough to say WHAT she's shooting or the mechanisms for it, because even if we do know what she's shooting, we don't know the mechanisms which are just as important, and since we can't assume them here we can't say what the speed is cause chances are she's not using gunpowder or some other traditional way of making a bullet fly, and it definitely isn't a rocket or grenade, so those are out, as such, we don't know and it's incalculable.
 
Not really, with that reloading mechanism it's really tough to say WHAT she's shooting or the mechanisms for it, because even if we do know what she's shooting, we don't know the mechanisms which are just as important, and since we can't assume them here we can't say what the speed is cause chances are she's not using gunpowder or some other traditional way of making a bullet fly, and it definitely isn't a rocket or grenade, so those are out, as such, we don't know and it's incalculable.
K so we still have reaper
 
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