• This forum is strictly intended to be used by members of the VS Battles wiki. Please only register if you have an autoconfirmed account there, as otherwise your registration will be rejected. If you have already registered once, do not do so again, and contact Antvasima if you encounter any problems.

    For instructions regarding the exact procedure to sign up to this forum, please click here.
  • We need Patreon donations for this forum to have all of its running costs financially secured.

    Community members who help us out will receive badges that give them several different benefits, including the removal of all advertisements in this forum, but donations from non-members are also extremely appreciated.

    Please click here for further information, or here to directly visit our Patreon donations page.
  • Please click here for information about a large petition to help children in need.

OPM Minor Matter Manipulation Fix

MrTayman616

MrTayman616

Messages
4,555
Reaction score
3,437
Pretty simple.

Garou and Saitama manipulated every elementary particles in their body to travel back in time. Their profiles state that it's (Macro-Quantum) only because they manipulated electrons and positrons along with their atomic nuclei which isn't the case.

"Garou/Saitama's Matter Manipulation is considered Macro-Quantum since it involved them not only adjusting their atomic nuclei but their electrons and positrons as well."

It was only the case at first, where Garou was showing the technique to Saitama. But Saitama honed the technique, unlike Garou who's two type of elementary particle mimicked each other, He manipulated every elementary particle in his body, not just electrons and positrons.

The note that states it should be deleted from Parallel Timeline Garou and Saitama's profile. As Garou (Parallel Timeline) copies it later when he sees Saitama doing it.

Garou (Cosmic Fear Mode) should have the same ability as his parallel version since he already had it, it wasn't working as he wanted it to(time travel) since he didn't copy it from Saitama who honed it to a higher level at that time.

For Cosmic Fear Mode Garou : "Body Control, Matter Manipulation (Macro-Quantum) and Antimatter Manipulation (Can manipulate his own sub-atomic particles and anti-particles)
For Parallel Timeline: Time Travel, Enhanced Body Control, Matter Manipulation and Antimatter Manipulation (Travelled back in time by manipulating his own sub-atomic particles and anti-particles)
For Saitama, just removing the note should be enough.

(Not sure if the way of writing Enhanced there is correct though 😅)
 
Last edited:
This wording is hard to follow.

MrTayman616 said:
Pretty simple.

Garou and Saitama manipulated every elementary particles in their body to travel back in time. Their profiles state that it's (Macro-Quantum) only because they manipulated electrons and positrons along with their atomic nuclei which isn't the case.
Click to expand...
Not only that, but electron spin is a property of macro-quantum, which is also clearly shown.
MrTayman616 said:
"Garou/Saitama's Matter Manipulation is considered Macro-Quantum since it involved them not only adjusting their atomic nuclei but their electrons and positrons as well."

It was only the case at first, where Garou was showing the technique to Saitama. But Saitama honed the technique, unlike Garou who's two type of elementary particle mimicked each other, He manipulated every elementary particle in his body, not just electrons and positrons.
Click to expand...
I think you're misunderstanding. There's two generalized types: antiparticles and particles. As we see here, Garou has far more than a sum of two particles/atoms. And he did this while God was actively turning him into salt, stripping him of his powers. It's no different than what Saitama completely accomplished when you considered this was the first time Garou was focusing on achieving this technique's completion. They both did the same thing, Saitama just completed it.

MrTayman616 said:
The note that states it should be deleted from Parallel Timeline Garou and Saitama's profile. As Garou (Parallel Timeline) copies it later when he sees Saitama doing it.

Garou (Cosmic Fear Mode) should have the same ability as his parallel version since he already had it, it wasn't working as he wanted it to(time travel) since he didn't copy it from Saitama who honed it to a higher level at that time.
Click to expand...
I agree with this. Garou only copied Blast and Saitama, so "his" techniques are all fundamental abilities provided to him by God.
 
Golden_Void said:
Not only that, but electron spin is a property of macro-quantum, which is also clearly shown.
Click to expand...
Yes, i'm not saying they didn't do that. I'm saying those are not the only elementary particles that were manipulated.

It's stated that ALL of the elementary particles in Saitama did that. While it weren't seemingly the case for Garou at the start.
Golden_Void said:
I think you're misunderstanding. There's two generalized types: antiparticles and particles. As we see here, Garou has far more than a sum of two particles/atoms. And he did this while God was actively turning him into salt, stripping him of his powers. It's no different than what Saitama completely accomplished when you considered this was the first time Garou was focusing on achieving this technique's completion. They both did the same thing, Saitama just completed it.
Click to expand...
I'm not saying Garou didn't do anything or just manipulated a few atom.

What i'm arguing is the note in their profile "Garou/Saitama's Matter Manipulation is considered Macro-Quantum since it involved them not only adjusting their atomic nuclei but their electrons and positrons as well."

We have a statement of Saitama doing it for ALL of the elementary particles he's consists of. Not just atomic nuclei and electron positrons.

Golden_Void said:
I agree with this. Garou only copied Blast and Saitama, so "his" techniques are all fundamental abilities provided to him by God.
Click to expand...
Yeah, he didn't gain more knowledge or anything either. So he should have had this from the beginning.
 
Last edited:
MrTayman616 said:
Yes, i'm not saying they didn't do that. I'm saying those are not the only elementary particles that were manipulated.

It's stated that ALL of the elementary particles in Saitama did that. While it weren't seemingly the case for Garou at the start.

I'm not saying Garou didn't do anything or just manipulated a few atom.

What i'm arguing is the note in their profile "Garou/Saitama's Matter Manipulation is considered Macro-Quantum since it involved them not only adjusting their atomic nuclei but their electrons and positrons as well."

We have a statement of Saitama doing it for ALL of the elementary particles he's consists of. Not just atomic nuclei and electron positrons.
Click to expand...
So are you saying per Garou's statement, the normal timeline Garou should have it too? Because otherwise, idk what the main point is
 
Golden_Void said:
So are you saying per Garou's statement, the normal timeline Garou should have it too? Because otherwise, idk what the main point is
Click to expand...
Removing the note from the parallel version.

Adding matter,antimatter and body control (macro-quantum) to cosmic fear Garou (not time travel as he achieved it from copying Saitama)
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

MrTayman616
OPM: Speed Upgrade(2)
2
Replies
48
Views
3K
KaramcaS
KaramcaS
WanderingGecko
  • Locked
Ultraman: Antimatter Addition
Replies
27
Views
2K
WanderingGecko
WanderingGecko
MrTayman616
  • Locked
OPM: Speed Upgrade
Replies
19
Views
2K
MrTayman616
MrTayman616
Rogue_Forge
Should we have OPM Webcomic Profiles?
Replies
16
Views
1K
Raiden38
Raiden38
MrTayman616
  • Locked
OPM: Bad Boy Upgrade
Replies
12
Views
2K
Kachon123
Kachon123
Back
Top