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He was weakened, why is that relavent?
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Wait what translation is that? the one i read is different.?Ryukama said:Breaking someone's pinky toe while off guard =/= you're on par with their strength.
A character being so ridiculously strong they can even tank attacks off guard =/= the very concept of being more suseptible to damage while not expecting it no longer exists.
Gouketsu obviously views Bakuzan in a much higher,than Choze, and Choze has zero to suggest he's a Dragon. If anything the opposite since Gouketsu is making such a big deal out of Bakuzan being a Dragon whereas making no mention of such a thing for Choze.
Of course the gap between Suiryu and Gouketsu is greater than the gap between Suiryu and Bakuzan. Gouketsu is ridiculously stronger than Bakuzan. However Bakuzan is still well above Suiryu, and so far Suiryu has nothing to suggest he's on par with a Dragon Level.Quangotjokes said:See lol, i don't deny that bakuzan is stronger, just don't feel he's suiryu to gouketstu level stronger.
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Unknow: Accel^, Raide^, Withered Sprout (Large Building level pending calc acceptence)^, Drive Knight^
At least Wall Level: Suprise Attack Plum^, Jumping Spider^, Scaledo^, Golden Ball^, Spring Mustachio^, Great Philosopher^, Stinger^, Death Gatling^, Magic Trick Ma^, Heavy Tank Fundoshi^, Choze (Human form)^
Small Town level: Genos (early), Prisoner, Deep Sea King (Dry and Wet), Grizzly Nyah, G4, Beast King, Mosquito Girl (Probably warrents a "possibly" rating), Zombiema, Sonic (Pre-Chapter 43). Both Sonic and Genos need an additional key. Sonic is "Pre-Saitama Training | Post-Saitama Training" and Genos "Pre-G4 | Post-G4 | Post-Monster Association"
Town Level: Genos (Post-G4), Sonic (Post-Training), Blizzard, Demonic Fa,Do-S, Awakened Cockroach, Tanktop Master, Royal Ripper (could stab Garou, but considering it uses blades which focuses power in a smaller surface area it may not necessarily need as much AP to damage him), Bofoy (calc), Gale Wind (Human Form/fought against Sonic), Child Emperor, Iaia
At least Town Level, possibly/likely Large Town level: Carnage Kabuto (base), Groribas, Geryuganshoop, Melzalgald, Metal Bat, Vaccine Ma^ (calc)
Large Town Level: Beefcake^, Silverfang*, Suiryu^, Choze (monster)^, Metal Bat (pumped up), Darkshine, Carnage Kabuto (Carnage Mode), Bakuzan (monster)^, Homless Emperor (AP only since he could kill himself with the energy balls), Flashy Flash*, Elder Centipede, Overgrown Rover, Bomb*, Psykos, both BS and GS*, Orochi*, Sweet Mask*, Watchdog Ma, Garou, Pig God, Atomic Samurai*, Evil Natural Water*, Gums, Fuhrer Ugly, Gale Wind* (Monster Form)
At least Large Town Level: God
Other levels: Hundred-Eyes Octopus (At least Building level)^, 170,000 Year Magicicada Nymph (At least Building level)^, Hammerhead (Multi-City Block)^
* = People who keep the MHS+ speed as agreeded upon.
^ = People who don't scale to Genos is any notable way, so they don't get a High Hypersonic rating
Scaling reasoning = Small Town Level for being scaled from Genos. Town Level from being scaled to G4 Genos. Large Town level from being scaled to Choze/Suiryu
but why is there a gap you believe so wide? just because of his rating? for all we know he's the weakest dragon in the series. Goukets said that if monsterfied Suiryu may even be a upper echelon, that's saying a lot.Ryukama said:Of course the gap between Suiryu and Gouketsu is greater than the gap between Suiryu and Bakuzan. Gouketsu is ridiculously stronger than Bakuzan. However Bakuzan is still well above Suiryu, and so far Suiryu has nothing to suggest he's on par with a Dragon Level.Quangotjokes said:See lol, i don't deny that bakuzan is stronger, just don't feel he's suiryu to gouketstu level stronger.
No. Because again, Bakuzan is much stronger than a guy who's already on par with Suiryu. Gouketsu said Suiryu would be a "big shot". Which yeah if Suiryu at his base is already stronger than Monster Choze his monster form would be super strong, but that doesn't mean his base form is a Dragon just cause his hypothetical monster form would be.Quangotjokes said:but why is there a gap you believe so wide? just because of his rating? for all we know he's the weakest dragon in the series. Goukets said that if monsterfied Suiryu may even be a upper echelon, that's saying a lot.
Silly comment, it's the humans force exerted on it which causes the damage.Spartan1204 said:@Quangotjokes When a human gets injured by LEGOs, it doesn't make the LEGO human level.