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OP Emperors Volume 1

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Wuggy reacted to Akainu's attack and Kizaru's laser
Waiting for the day he gets "Possibly H6A" like the rest of em and is finally hanging with the big dogs like he deserves
 
TheMonkeMan said:
Waiting for the day he gets "Possibly H6A" like the rest of em and is finally hanging with the big dogs like he deserves
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Oh we're all waiting for that day.

In this one fanfic called "This Bites", Buggy flat-out challenges Mihawk to a duel at Marineford and reveals that he always was strong, he just suffered from trauma after the end of the Roger Pirates.

Mihawk leaps at the challenge.
 
Fireld said:
NOTES: This won't be talking about only the Emperors but also people who have fought with or against them. Thanks to @MonkeyOfLife & @Eminiteable for the VC translations.

BUGGY V
Heat Resistance: Endured the heat aura from one of Akainu's attacks.

ZEUS & HERA
Immaterial->Elemental Intangibility: Since they're thunderclouds afterall just like Prometheus gets it for being a fireball.

NAMI
Electricity Resisitance: The Climatact doesn't coduct the electricty of its lighting attacks back at Nami nor from Wanda's Electro.

BECKMAN
AP: Linking evidence for his scaling.
Likely Observation Haki: Based on his VC.

IZOU V
AP: Bruised Kaidou with his Slicing Rounds combined with Kiku's Fallen Snow Scythes*
Decent Swordman: Was using swords since his child & used it once again against Akainu. Obviously not as good as his sharpshooting since that's his main fighting style.

ROGER
Normal AP: Was called a wild beast by Oden. Fought WB multiple times
With Hao: Equally clashed with WB and managed to scar him
Speed: Catched Oden by surprise with his Kamusari. As you can see Roger's slash is between Oden swords and his torso but his swords were intact afterwards meaning, Roger attack hit him before he could put up his guard.

BOA HANCOCK V
Limited Power Nullification Resistance: Only the current user of the Love Fruit can undo the pertification caused by it's power.
Durability: "Although inferior she withstood him choking her despite him having the strength to almost break Portgas D. Ace's neck with one blow"-Remove this as BB at the time was holding her hard enough to keep in place where she stood but soft enough for her to speak properly. He was trying to negatiate to her at the time. It would be hard to have a conversation if he was actively trying to crush her throat while Ace got straight up karate chopped there. The rest of the durability section is fine.

MORIA V
Keys: We have tabbers for his Base, Shadow Asgard & Prime Versions, but we forgot to add the Key in the end for thr 3rd one. Just a simple minor edit.
Speed->Stamina: "Moria himself could easily outrun Luffy long enough for the the rubber boy to get tired."-Most of the characters' in OP have running speed for long travel nowhere near as high as his combat speed that's why this would make a better stamina feat. There're other feats like this that should be removed like: "With Zeus, she could quickly catch up to Kingbaum, who Jinbe praises for his speed, despite the tree homie having a significant headstar. Kept up with a Kozuki Oden who was running towards Whitebeard's ship."

MARCO
Base AP: "Contended against Kuzan and Borsalino in a one-on-one fight"->"Send Kizaru and Aokiji flying with his kicks". He didn't have extended fight with either admiral aside from these kicks & intercepting Kizaru's laser at the start of the war.
Zoan AP: "Could hold his own against Big Mom"->"Clashed with Big Mom". Big Mom holds some respect for his strength.
Remove: "Forced Akainu onto the defensive briefly alongside Vista[3]". They did nth to him.
AP->Heat Resistance: Blocked a magma punch from Akainu meant to kill Luffy. Characters power varies a lot when they're attacking targets that aren't even on the same tier as them.
Durability: Remove blocking the Bolo Breath as we already accept his phoenix fire having propereties that negate other flames. At least with BM & King's attacks he has to deal with not only their flames but also the strength of their fists too.

KAIDO
Zoan Forms AP: His presence kept GB away from Wano and was called a dreaded monster by Blackbeard. With just one blow in Hybrid Mode injured Law's inspite of the later using Curtain. His Kaifu in Full Zoan Form amputated Kiku who likely survive physical strikes from him like Kawamatsu.
"Full" Zoan LS: Made G5th Luffy struggle with his jaw strength.
Zoan Forms Speed: Dodged a Dragon Blaze in Full Zoan and Red Hawk in Hybrid Mode.
Thunder Bagua: Blitzed Kin'emon in Base and Law in Hybrid
Base Durability: "Scaling off his attack power, as he doesn't know how to kill himself[20]"-This should be placed from his zoan form to his base. Afterall, one of his failed suicide attemps shown on-screen was done while he was in base. Additional evidence that Kaido cannot kill himself. Kid compliements his toughness.
Zoan Forms Durability: Noted for his heightened defences. Had his Bolo Breath deflected back at him twice. Tanked a shot from Izou and several Killer slashes.
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This is so ******* based it's absurd. Agreeing with all of this.
Also BB, despite having power null via the Yami, couldn't undo Hancock's petrification with his own powers. I feel this should also be noted.
 
TheMonkeMan said:
This is so ******* based it's absurd. Agreeing with all of this.
Also BB, despite having power null via the Yami, couldn't undo Hancock's petrification with his own powers. I feel this should also be noted.
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Thanks!
Mean, it kinda is already. I already linked that only the user of the fruit can undo the pertification in 2 databooks implying nth else could undo it.
Eseseso said:
Valid, just making sure.
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Good
Eseseso said:
Fireld's P&A CRT's never disappoint.

Dude's gonna be the new KT at this rate.
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Thanks!

Nah man.
 
Fireld said:
Thanks!
Mean, it kinda is already. I already linked that only the user of the fruit can undo the pertification in 2 databooks implying nth else could undo it.

Good

Thanks!

Nah man.
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You have that scan of Lucci being called the strongest CP0 member? I lost it. It should be added to the OP.
 
TheMonkeMan said:
Thanks.
I believe that should be " Possibly H6A [or H6B I forget what the scaling is now] ( stated to be the strongest secret agent, putting him above Guernica and Maha who fought Apoo and Drake ) "
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That won't work.

Magazine came out on March 2nd.

Maha is dead, and Guernica isn't in CP0 anymore since the WG thinks he's dead.

So we can only use that statement to scale Lucci's Base above Base Kaku (which will only be after the arc ends, as everyone agreed), and Base Stussy (who right now is mainly just comparable to Base Kaku).

I mean him being above Guernica would make sense but we can't use that statement for it.
 
Eseseso said:
That won't work.

Magazine came out on March 2nd.

Maha is dead, and Guernica isn't in CP0 anymore since the WG thinks he's dead.

So we can only use that statement to scale Lucci's Base above Base Kaku (which will only be after the arc ends, as everyone agreed), and Base Stussy (who right now is mainly just comparable to Base Kaku).

I mean him being above Guernica would make sense but we can't use that statement for it.
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We don't know if it means his base is above any of the others' bases, but it does mean he's superior.
Good point about Maha and Guernica though.
Joseph is still alive however, and he might be H6A, so..
 
Additional feat I found for Kidd's Punk Rotten durability and the power of Kaido's Kaifu's:

Kidd's Punk Rotten managed to casually block a lightning bolt from Tenmai Tenjin (look to the right of Zeus in the panel where Kidd blocks, there's even a "Zmmf! sound effect to show it) and forced Zeus to maneuver around the arm to actually hit Kidd, implying he couldn't hurt Punk Rotten itself.

Zoan Kaido's Kaifu effortlessly one-shot these same Punk Rotten hands.

Big Mom's Ikoku Sovereignty also one-shot Punk Rotten's hands, which combined with her Ikoku Sovereignty making Post-Udon Luffy, who took hits from Prometheus and Kaido, go out of his way to dodge it, makes me feel like she should have a profile change to something like this:

"High 6-A, higher with Homies, far higher with All Homies, Haōshoku Infusion, or Ikoku Sovereignty"

Or we could just list the power feats of IS in the AP justification section of her having higher AP with her Homies.

So this is mostly a support feat for the Kaifu's (and the 2 people who scale to them, aka Buso Rooftop Zoro and Killer) since a Kaifu one-shot something that took a bolt from Tenmai Tenjin, as well as a durability feat for Punk Rotten and a good feat for Ikoku Sovreignty.
 
Kachon123 said:
Directly maybe, but others scale from those characters, like Apoo, Drake, and Guernica.
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I think they downscale (since Zoro was mainly trying to get to the roof and was only semi-serious with Apoo until he saw Kiku's arm and got pissed) and don't fully scale.

Guernica already scales to that level via badly hurting Zoan Drake who took hits from Apoo's DF off-screen.

But do you agree with the proposal above?
 
Kachon123 said:
Nah, they would scale to Kaifu.
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Let's see what Emin thinks, since when I did a revision last summer to boost Buso Zoro to 1.032 petatons (back when God Tiers scaled to Issho's now-rejected 1.032 petaton meteor), I spoke with him and he said that Apoo's normal AP and Zoan Drake should downscale and not fully scale.
Kachon123 said:
Sure, it's pretty uncontroversial.
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Thanks.
 
Eseseso said:
Kidd's Punk Rotten managed to casually block a lightning bolt from Tenmai Tenjin (look to the right of Zeus in the panel where Kidd blocks, there's even a "Zmmf! sound effect to show it) and forced Zeus to maneuver around the arm to actually hit Kidd, implying he couldn't hurt Punk Rotten itself.
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I would count that as electricity resistance for Punk Rotten. Kid's body is resilient to physical blows than his own mechas as he casually calls those scrap to begin with when they get oneshotted. Ikoku Sovernity wrecked Punk Rotten, destroyed Kid's prostectic arm while Kid's real body endured said attack quite better.
Eseseso said:
Big Mom's Ikoku Sovereignty also one-shot Punk Rotten's hands, which combined with her Ikoku Sovereignty making Post-Udon Luffy, who took hits from Prometheus and Kaido, go out of his way to dodge it, makes me feel like she should have a profile change to something like this:
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Trying to dodge a sword attack ain't Luffy going out his way at all, it's usual for him. You do know he was trying to dodge that Thunder Bagua from Base Kaido too.
 
Fireld said:
I would count that as electricity resistance for Punk Rotten. Kid's body is resilient to physical blows than his own mechas as he casually calls those scrap to begin with when they get oneshotted. Ikoku Sovernity wrecked Punk Rotten, destroyed Kid's prostectic arm while Kid's real body endured said attack quite better.

Trying to dodge a sword attack ain't Luffy going out his way at all, it's usual for him. You do know he was trying to dodge that Thunder Bagua from Base Kaido too.
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Not sure how Kid's body being more resilient than his scrap gives his Punk Rotten electricity manipulation resistance.

Especially since instead of spreading all over the metal arm, it seems to just impact the area it hits on his arm.
 
So?

That bolt literally phased thru his mouth like Nami's Thunder Lance goes thru people's torso but it couldn't do that to Punk Rotten.
 
Fireld said:
So?

That bolt literally phased thru his mouth like the Nami's Lightning Lance goes thru people's torso but it couldn't do that to Punk Rotten.
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That's fair.

One more thing though, normal scrap metal can't resist electricity.
 
I mean he made that box trapped Zeus out of scrap, he could give other mechanical construct simular porperties ig
 
Fireld said:
I mean he made that box trapped Zeus out of scrap, he could give other mechanical construct simular porperties ig
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That makes sense, actually.

Damn, a good feat for Kaifu gone, unless we wanna say that Punk Rotten's durability = it's AP somehow.
 
For Kaido's Kaifu, we can still add "Effortlessly sliced through Eustass Kidd's Punk Rotten", which should scale above Kidd's normal metal arm constructs, which blocked a Cognac from Big Mom and could block attacks from Bigger Mom's metal bar Homies, and those Metal Bar Homies were a threat to Law before Kidd used his Magnetism to absorb them into his Punk Corna Dio.

Yes he says it's "scrap", but that's mostly referring to how he can easily reassemble his constructs with more metal, and tbh we never see anyone outside of Yonko destroying his metal constructs (like Bigger Mom's Flaming Sword).

Also Punk Rotten's durability should be comparable to its AP cuz it uses physical attacks.
 
Eseseso said:
For Kaido's Kaifu, we can still add "Effortlessly sliced through Eustass Kidd's Punk Rotten", which should scale above Kidd's normal metal arm constructs, which blocked a Cognac from Big Mom and could block attacks from Bigger Mom's metal bar Homies, and those Metal Bar Homies were a threat to Law before Kidd used his Magnetism to absorb them into his Punk Corna Dio.
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Woah, wow there slow down a little. That Cognac was aimed at Nami, Tama & Usopp, it doesn't matter that she wanted to kill them or that she was angry, that attack was aimed at weaklings like Sanji & Luffy stopping her Zeus enhanced punch meant to finish off Reiju so it ain't her full power. BM was angry there too. She was briefly fighting him without combing Napoleon with elemental hommies before Law showed up. Those same Kaifus were deflected by Killer & 1-sword Zoro. Are you arguing those 2 individually are>2-Hommie BM who's relative to Hybrid Kaido who can compete with Asura Zoro?
Eseseso said:
Yes he says it's "scrap", but that's mostly referring to how he can easily reassemble his constructs with more metal, and tbh we never see anyone outside of Yonko destroying his metal constructs (like Bigger Mom's Flaming Sword).
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It's literally made out of scrap. Or Base BM 1-hommie Ikoku Sovereignty that completly wrecked Punk Rotten but left Kid still in 1 piece.
 
Fireld said:
Woah, wow there slow down a little. That Cognac was aimed at Nami, Tama & Usopp, it doesn't matter that she wanted to kill them or that she was angry, that attack was aimed at weaklings like Sanji & Luffy stopping her Zeus enhanced punch meant to finish off Reiju so it ain't her full power.
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Tell that to Kidd's current profile
Fireld said:
BM was angry there too. She was briefly fighting him without combing Napoleon with elemental hommies before Law showed up.
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Fair
Fireld said:
Those same Kaifus were deflected by Killer & 1-sword Zoro. Are you arguing those 2 individually are>2-Hommie BM who's relative to Hybrid Kaido who can compete with Asura Zoro?
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That's 3-Homie Big Mom who is relative to Hybrid Kaido
Fireld said:
It's literally made out of scrap. Or Base BM 1-hommie Ikoku Sovereignty that completly wrecked Punk Rotten but left Kid still in 1 piece.
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I'm not saying the metal is more durable than Kidd, I'm just saying it's still durable enough to block hits from Bigger Mom's Homies that threatened Law.

And it's durability should still be comparable to its AP else it couldn't endure its own punches.
 
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