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One-Punch Man CGT: Settling the Topic of Serious Punch²

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hey guys are your eyes broken? there is a clear difference in the appearance how can you say that it is the same, even though it is clear that the views are very different, look at the picture again
Look at the placement of the moon; it's the same. The spine in the moon is at the back, while the front is pointed towards Earth. Yet in this chapter we visibly see stars being present where the void's supposed to be.
 
Look at the placement of the moon; it's the same. The spine in the moon is at the back, while the front is pointed towards Earth. Yet in this chapter we visibly see stars being present where the void's supposed to be.
it's clearly different gosh, look at it again, load it carefully

they made a hole in the middle of the moon and the earth then when they came back and saw the moon and the earth were aligned
 
it's definitely very different, the view taken from the panel when the hole occurred and garou's return to earth is very different
 
well, in vs matches though, he would effectively be allowed to reach 3-A still, I don't seem the harm in having a "up to 3-A with AD" since that's just a potential tier, but he'd still start off as 4-A
There is the massive jump from Tier 4-A to 3A to consider so again, that is more like a hypothetical thing, not a solid thing as we still need feats with AD/RPL though tbf.
 
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There is the massive jump from Tier 4-A to 3A so again, that is more like a hypothetical thing, not a solid thing as we still need feats with AD/RPL though tbf.
Is it generally agreed that his limiter is broken and he can potentially reach a much higher tier if he so wished? If so, where's the harm in "At least 4-A, potentially far higher with AD"?
 
so we do agree that he can reach 3-A, but we shouldn't put it on the profiles? I suppose that makes sense in a way, I'm fine with this
just remember, anything's better than "Yamcha solos one punch man" ever coming back
 
Oh yeah it should take 41 punches for Saitama to reach 3-A (at his strongest state in the manga), might post a blog about how his RE should be treated in a vs match.
 
please do, the AD is a new major power and it'd be a shame if it gets overlooked with the regular "nlf + needs feats" arguments
Oh yeah it should take 41 punches for Saitama to reach 3-A (at his strongest state in the manga), might post a blog about how his RE should be treated in a vs match.
What?
It is not even invalid on the fact we don’t get a tier with a what if scenario given the fact we still need feats to begin with.

Edit: Also AD is not a new power.
 
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As for the relevant staff input, here is the following inputs to consider
Usklaverei's low-end version is the most accurate and polished one.

@USklaverei I'm not sure why you haven't made it yet, but it would be appreciated if you created an actual blog with your calculation.

“If you ask me, USK's low-end version makes the most sense given the current visuals.” From @KLOL506
USK's calc for the most part. So 4-A
Without any confirmation that there were actual galaxies hit by it, I wouldn't really be in favor a high-end as high as that.
Also there is Therefir’s further confirmation about supporting 4A.
 
One small thing is bugging me, btw. Given that this happened because of the clash of two serious punches, can this be replicated by just Saitama alone?
 
One small thing is bugging me, btw. Given that this happened because of the clash of two serious punches, can this be replicated by just Saitama alone?
Well both he and Garou were reactively upping their power levels vastly over the course of their fight, so by fight's end their singular serious punches should be superior to their previous serious punch²
 
Well both he and Garou were reactively upping their power levels vastly over the course of their fight, so by fight's end their singular serious punches should be superior to their previous serious punch²
Tbf, the feat did involve Blast redirecting the combined energy clash between Garou and Saitama so not sure if that is legit the case anyway.
 
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Of course it's a bit more vague because I just counted stars, neutron stars would up the feat while some pussy yellow stars would down it (you still get a fine average with e+27 of them). There was no real reason to calc the radius of the cone twice but I did it for the normies to see that the max range radius has the same relation to height as the other one.
 
Just to give my take real quick:

Even from down here on Earth, with all of the pollution, galaxies that are millions of light-years away can occasionally be seen, such as the Andromeda. The fact that there is no light left in that void whatsoever, even viewing it from up in space, means we can deduce it at LEAST reached out of the Milky Way galaxy, and possibly even other galaxies. The thing is, we don't have confirmation that there were galaxies in its path. It's fully plausible, hell it could even warrant a possibly or likely on the pages I would say. But without confirmation, it is still technically speculative, and thus the safest way to go would be 4-A.
 
Just to give my take real quick:

Even from down here on Earth, with all of the pollution, galaxies that are millions of light-years away can occasionally be seen, such as the Andromeda. The fact that there is no light left in that void whatsoever, even viewing it from up in space, means we can deduce it at LEAST reached out of the Milky Way galaxy, and possibly even other galaxies. The thing is, we don't have confirmation that there were galaxies in its path. It's fully plausible, hell it could even warrant a possibly or likely on the pages I would say. But without confirmation, it is still technically speculative, and thus the safest way to go would be 4-A.
Not necessarily especially since the galaxies are shown to being intact after the feat in question.
 
Well that's just a different direction. The blast only traveled one way.

Side note, I also think it's kinda odd that there are perfectly visible galaxies there when Saitama and Garou are right next to Earth.
Those are technically stars being showed though, not necessarily galaxies.
 
One small thing is bugging me, btw. Given that this happened because of the clash of two serious punches, can this be replicated by just Saitama alone?
well the graph indicates that saitama got around at least 16 times stronger during the fight so uh
yes, yes it can
 
I talking about this scan. https://**********/read/gist/OPM/167/11/
Okay let me go over this again.

I went over this in my earlier post. There could have been galaxies there, but from what we understand, meaning no explanation, it can only be gathered that they were stars. Then you said the galaxies were intact, I was confused, then you posted a page from this latest chapter showing galaxies, even though that was in a different direction. I mentioned that it was weird how there were perfectly visible galaxies there when Saitama and Garou were right next to Earth, even closer to it than the moon.

I don't know what the confusion here is caused by.
 
Okay let me go over this again.

I went over this in my earlier post. There could have been galaxies there, but from what we understand, meaning no explanation, it can only be gathered that they were stars. Then you said the galaxies were intact, I was confused, then you posted a page from this latest chapter showing galaxies, even though that was in a different direction. I mentioned that it was weird how there were perfectly visible galaxies there when Saitama and Garou were right next to Earth, even closer to it than the moon.

I don't know what the confusion here is caused by.
I am just clarifying we going by the stars being destroyed of course.
Anyway, now that is settled.
 
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In theory this means you can't even use this star for your calcs because if the beam only hit the star cluster in front of it, you'd never see the star again, but it's still there.
They misspelled the star name lol
Not important, just thought it was funny
 

I know no one even uses the star I linked, but I wanted to point out the problem with gravitational lenses.
I searched a bit further and could not find any clear evidence that we're seeing V762 Cas through such a lens. However, this article here implies that every noteworthy star is only visible due to these gravity phenomena:


"Scientists observe object using NASA space telescopes Hubble and "Spitzer"and these observations were made possible by the natural cosmic "magnifying lens". This lens is actually a huge cluster of galaxies, whose overall gravity warps spacetime, producing what is called gravitational lens... When light from a distant galaxy passes through a lens like this on its way to Earth, it is amplified."

Being obviously pedantic here, but in theory you'd need to recalc everything for the furthest anything you can see which is not behind such a lens. At least if you wanna get an acceptable low end result.

Googling for that is nothing but pain and the best solution I can propose is using this tiny dataset here:


It lists the brightest stars, the one furthest away has a distance of 3000ly to earth. Not exactly scientific to say "just use that one" but if it's one of the brightest and among the brightest, it's the one furthest away, then we have a basis for a possible pick.

Maybe someone else make a better suggestion, but I see a serious problem with (just) calcing for Cas.
 
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The fact that there is no light left in that void whatsoever, even viewing it from up in space, means we can deduce it at LEAST reached out of the Milky Way galaxy, and possibly even other galaxies.
That is one hundred percent not something we can assume from the fact the hols lacks any light. There's this thing called "age", which Galaxies has a lot of, which is why their light from millions of Lightyears away can even reach us.
But that is not the case with stars, no. The furthest one we can see (with a naked eye) is around 16000ly! That's not that far! This means that, if a general direction does not hold a visible galaxy, destroying only the stars would be sufficient to get the similar effect.
 
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