One-Punch Man: Atomic Samurai

[Kachon123]

G5's lasers are now rated at Speed of Light

We can now use this Atomic Samurai calc:

Atomic Samurai intercept beam

vsbattles.fandom.com

Given the situation, we can argue that because of the nature of the feat—coming from a casual attack, not even the Atomic Slash—and its proximity to the speed of light (1.28205128x slower), scaling up Sunblade Atomic Samurai to FTL seems reasonable.

With this, Atomic Samurai's speed would look like:

Speed: Massively Hypersonic+ (Intercepted a God Blast from Psykos without any problems. Darkshine stated that he could easily defeat Half-Monster Garou. Able to react to and counter Evil Natural Water's high-pressure jets. Was able to blitz Vomited Fuhrer Ugly before he could react), Relativistic+ attack speed (Reacted to and deflected a laser from G5. Able to perform dozens of slashes in less than a fraction of a second), FTL with the Sun Blade (Increased his statistics enough that Golden Sperm thought Atomic Samurai went through monsterfication)

Characters who scale:

-Golden Sperm
-Flashy Flash

 

[Ped2018]

Kachon giving us a 5 star meal

 

[Epiccheev]

Finally some respect for the Atomic Sandba-Samurai.
Agree FRA

 

[EnderLord8]

Black sperm wouldn't scale too?

 

[Kachon123]

Black sperm wouldn't scale too?

He would not.

 

[EnderLord8]

ok

 

[Phoenks]

Should just have straight up rela+ combat/reaction speed scaling to that calc IMO.

Don't know why we would assume only the projectile is that fast, personally. We can see he swung his sword all the way in an arc before the light reached any closer.


Isn't that what the calc is calculating, anyway?

 

[ImmortalDread]

Isn't that what the calc is calculating, anyway?

What does this mean if I may ask kindly?

 

[Phoenks]

What does this mean if I may ask kindly?

I mean the calc is calculating Atomic Samurai's slashing speed, not the speed of his projectile

 

[Kachon123]

Don't know why we would assume only the projectile is that fast, personally. We can see he swung his sword all the way in an arc before the light reached any closer.

We're not assuming anything. It's literally calculating.

 

[Phoenks]

We're not assuming anything. It's literally calculating.

Did the calculation measure the projectile or his slash?

Also, this should scale to reactions either way as well.

 

[Damage3245]

G5's lasers are now rated at Speed of Light

They are? When did that happen?

 

[Phoenks]

They are? When did that happen?

One-Punch Man: G4 and G5 Lasers

"G4 and G5's lasers are genuine light speed lasers" Currently we don't accept this claim for the following reasons: "They do not travel in straight lines” G4’s beams are shown to curve and swerve without refraction/reflection occurring. “It is tangible and can be interacted with...

vsbattles.com

Accepted here.

 

[Damage3245]

One-Punch Man: G4 and G5 Lasers

"G4 and G5's lasers are genuine light speed lasers" Currently we don't accept this claim for the following reasons: "They do not travel in straight lines” G4’s beams are shown to curve and swerve without refraction/reflection occurring. “It is tangible and can be interacted with...

vsbattles.com

Accepted here.

Godammit, I missed that whole thread.

Oh well. Too late to do anything about it now.


For this thread, I disagree with upscaling Golden Blade Atomic Samurai to FTL. I don't see any strong evidence for FTL statistics.


Also for the record nobody has evaluated and accepted the calc in the OP.

 

[ImmortalDread]

Godammit, I missed that whole thread.

Why I feel the pain inside these messages.

 

[Phoenks]

Godammit, I missed that whole thread.

Oh well. Too late to do anything about it now.


For this thread, I disagree with upscaling Golden Blade Atomic Samurai to FTL. I don't see any strong evidence for FTL statistics.


Also for the record nobody has evaluated and accepted the calc in the OP.

It's off the basis that he would definitely upscale a lot from the 78%c value. Which, not sure if you can do that, but it kinda makes sense.

And, welp, if the calc isn't evaluated, someone should like... Do that, I suppose.

Also, can someone confirm if the calculation is measuring attack or combat speed? Because it's unclear. Though it seems it was measuring the arc of his slash.

 

[Damage3245]

It's off the basis that he would definitely upscale a lot from the 78%c value. Which, not sure if you can do that, but it kinda makes sense.

We definitely don't need to. I think just a "higher" would suffice here.

 

[Phsccarvalho]

G5's lasers are now rated at Speed of Light

We can now use this Atomic Samurai calc:

Atomic Samurai intercept beam

vsbattles.fandom.com

Given the situation, we can argue that because of the nature of the feat—coming from a casual attack, not even the Atomic Slash—and its proximity to the speed of light (1.28205128x slower), scaling up Sunblade Atomic Samurai to FTL seems reasonable.

With this, Atomic Samurai's speed would look like:

Speed: Massively Hypersonic+ (Intercepted a God Blast from Psykos without any problems. Darkshine stated that he could easily defeat Half-Monster Garou. Able to react to and counter Evil Natural Water's high-pressure jets. Was able to blitz Vomited Fuhrer Ugly before he could react), Relativistic+ attack speed (Reacted to and deflected a laser from G5. Able to perform dozens of slashes in less than a fraction of a second), FTL with the Sun Blade (Increased his statistics enough that Golden Sperm thought Atomic Samurai went through monsterfication)

Characters who scale:

-Golden Sperm
-Flashy Flash

Was this calculation accepted? It's just that I don't see any calculation members in the comments

 

[Coomandar]

I would instantly agree to “at least speed of light” rating for them, not sure about ftl…

 

[Kachon123]

Calc has been accepted.

 

[Epiccheev]

Eh, i'm fine with higher or just upscaling to SoL

 

[Recon1511]

I mean we have several in-universe statements that monsterization is a big amp to justify upscaling into higher rankings...

 

[Damage3245]

I mean we have several in-universe statements that monsterization is a big amp to justify upscaling into higher rankings...

Golden Sperm's statement makes no reference to Atomic Samurai's speed being massively enhanced.

While I don't doubt that his speed was enhanced, and that he was faster than normal, I don't see there being enough justification for FTL.

 

[Phoenks]

By the way...

Black Sperm scaling to this should absolutely be removed. It should have before this thread was even made. He shouldn't scale to AS at all.

Black Sperm was getting completely blitzed by AS even with his big grouped up forms. He only ever landed hits through sheer numbers.

And yeah this should be combat and reaction speed...

 

[Recon1511]

Yeah no he is definitely not scaling

 

[Kachon123]

By the way...

Black Sperm scaling to this should absolutely be removed. It should have before this thread was even made. He shouldn't scale to AS at all.

Black Sperm was getting completely blitzed by AS even with his big grouped up forms. He only ever landed hits through sheer numbers.

He was never scaling to this to begin with.

 

[Phoenks]

He was never scaling to this to begin with.

I mean he shouldn't scale to AS at all like he currently does. It doesn't make sense.

 

[Kachon123]

Different topic, different thread.

 

[Phoenks]

Different topic, different thread.

Er, not really. Because this scaling affects Black Sperm since this is combat speed. And due to that also affects everyone else who scales to black sperm. So I believe It can be addressed here.

And the calculation calculates combat speed, not projectile speed.

His reactions are also clearly at least in the rela+ range as he could easily perceive a beam of light and intercept it like that.

 

[Kachon123]

What the hell is projectile speed?

 

[Phoenks]

What the hell is projectile speed?

This thread is trying to scale this to attack speed which infer that you're talking about his air projectile rather than him swinging a sword.

Projectile speed is attack speed.

Combat speed his how fast someone's physical strikes and short burst movements are.

 

[Recon1511]

Phoenks

We aren't scaling Black Sperm to this bruv, why do you keep bringing it up

 

[Kachon123]

This thread is trying to scale this to attack speed which infer that you're talking about his air projectile rather than him swinging a sword.

Attack speed in Atomic Samurai's profile is treated as attacks like Atomic Slash, which is him swinging his sword.

I don't get what you're trying to say here.

 

[Phoenks]

Phoenks

We aren't scaling Black Sperm to this bruv, why do you keep bringing it up

Black Sperm currently scales to Atomic Samurai's combat speed.

This calculation would upgrade AS's combat speed (Not attack speed like this thread is suggesting) which would in-turn upgrade Black Sperm.

Which would then upgrade everyone who scales to Black Sperm.

 

[Kachon123]

Black Sperm currently scales to Atomic Samurai's combat speed.

This calculation would upgrade AS's combat speed (Not attack speed like this thread is suggesting) which would in-turn upgrade Black Sperm.

Which would then upgrade everyone who scales to Black Sperm.

Read the profiles.

 

[Phoenks]

Attack speed in Atomic Samurai's profile is treated as attacks like Atomic Slash, which is him swinging his sword.

I don't get what you're trying to say here.

This shouldn't be the case because that's combat speed not attack speed.

 

[Recon1511]

Not like Black Sperm would scale in any way to either Atomic's AS (gets consistently perception blitzed and sliced to pieces even when Atomic is a wreck and heavily injured) or his reactions (He just overwhelms him with raw numbers)

 

[Damage3245]

@Phoenks I think you're derailing a bit. Can you please drop that point while we focus on AS and the relevent characters first?

 

[Phoenks]

@Phoenks I think you're derailing a bit. Can you please drop that point while we focus on AS and the relevent characters first?

What exactly is there to focus on? The calc is accepted. I agree with this scaling to his combat speed. Not attack speed, because that is incorrect.

I'm mentioning that his profile is currently wrong and based on these upgrades would in-turn upgrade many characters that really shouldn't scale.

How exactly is that derailing? I'm trying to fix his page and those in close relation to it.

 

[Kachon123]

I'm mentioning that his profile is currently wrong and based on these upgrades would in-turn upgrade many characters that really shouldn't scale.

How exactly is that derailing? I'm trying to fix his page and those in close relation to it.

Different topic, different thread.