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One Piece new chapter spoilers thread

DaMonkeMan said:
Idk I don't remember people claiming Admirals >= YC1 and Marco < King before
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they weren't claiming that but they definitely was hiding their biases at those times...

It's legit Admirals = Marco > King and Queen... Anything else is just pure cap and headcanon
 
Kachon123 said:
You're funny 😂
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DaMonkeMan said:
Based off what exactly
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Literally what I showed above... And then... Boom
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More boom
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They didn't fight him in their Zoan or Hybrid forms, the only time they interacted in those forms were when Marco surprised them and held their necks and when Marco threw a fireball at Queen while he was charging a laser at fodders.
 
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DaMonkeMan said:
These are all off guard hits lmfao
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they weren't... They literally react and brace before getting hit, King was the one who attacked Marco first and it was actually off guarded and did no actual damage on him
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King bleeding out of his mouth from external damage = Marco completely overpowering him, you should know as you wanted to be a pro boxer...
DaMonkeMan said:
Also he and Perospero admitted it was exhausting for him to hold them off
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No shit... He isn't just fighting them but keeping them in check so that they don't go attacking someone else... You would have to be way superior to be capable of doing that

And the problem was only because of his stamina... That means nothing when it's about who's stronger
 
KingTempest said:
"Didn't even use their fruits there"

The first image we see is both of them in zoan individually in each of this goon's arms
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DaMonkeMan said:
They didn't fight him in their Zoan or Hybrid forms, the only time they interacted in those forms were when Marco surprised them and held their necks and when Marco threw a fireball at Queen while he was charging a laser at fodders.
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Imagine I hold and restrain both of you guys in both of my hands, both unable to escape and someone in the tiny corner of the room saying; one of them would've beaten you if it was a 1v1 instead
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maybe I shouldn't have came up with an example story 🙉😅 but you see where I'm getting at 🙈
 
MonkeyOfLife said:
Imagine I hold and restrain both of you guys in both of my hands, both unable to escape and someone in the tiny corner of the room saying; one of them would've beaten you if it was a 1v1 instead
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maybe I shouldn't have came up with an example story 🙉😅 but you see where I'm getting at 🙈
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MonkeyOfLife said:
they weren't... They literally react and brace before getting hit, King was the one who attacked Marco first and it was actually off guarded and did no actual damage on him
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King bleeding out of his mouth from external damage = Marco completely overpowering him, you should know as you wanted to be a pro boxer...

No shit... He isn't just fighting them but keeping them in check so that they don't go attacking someone else... You would have to be way superior to be capable of doing that

And the problem was only because of his stamina... That means nothing when it's about who's stronger
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I wonder how he managed to lose to King later on if he's so unbelievably strong
 
DaMonkeMan said:
I wonder how he managed to lose to King later on if he's so unbelievably strong
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He didn't lose. He ran out of stamina fighting both of them, and he ain't even really fully run out he just knew the others were ready to fight
 
KingTempest said:
He didn't lose. He ran out of stamina fighting both of them, and he ain't even really fully run out he just knew the others were ready to fight
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If you look at the panel where he's laying on a rock after the fights he looks pretty worn out, obviously he isn't inferior to King based off that but this does show that his stamina is probably below King's
 
DaMonkeMan said:
If you look at the panel where he's laying on a rock after the fights he looks pretty worn out, obviously he isn't inferior to King based off that but this does show that his stamina is probably below King's
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Marco did like 30 different things before he fought King.
I agree it's probably below King's, but the showcase against King isn't good proof
 
KingTempest said:
Marco did like 30 different things before he fought King.
I agree it's probably below King's, but the showcase against King isn't good proof
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I mean considering King had a brief clash with Sanji, then got whooped by Marco, then clashed with him and eventually wore him out over the course of like half a hour, then went on to fight Zoro for another half hour or full hour while Marco gassed out long before that kind of implies he's got less stamina. Though to be fair Marco did have to keep actively healing the people on the live floor or whatever it's called
Either way this is pretty important when people compare him to King or the Admirals since those people, especially the Admirals, have far better stamina and endurance feats
 
DaMonkeMan said:
I mean considering King had a brief clash with Sanji, then got whooped by Marco, then clashed with him and eventually wore him out over the course of like half a hour, then went on to fight Zoro for another half hour or full hour while Marco gassed out long before that kind of implies he's got less stamina. Though to be fair Marco did have to keep actively healing the people on the live floor or whatever it's called
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Okay, measure up to when they started fighting
King
  1. Brief clash with Sanji
  2. Fought Marco

Marco
  1. Flew all the way from Sphinx to Onigashima
  2. Used a powerful kick to knock down the Big Mom Pirates' ship, probably the largest actual ship in the series next to TB and Noah
  3. Fought with Perospero
  4. Fought alongside Perospero against a bunch of people
  5. Fought Big Mom and Perospero
  6. Filled up an entire floor of Onigashima with his healing flames constantly at high heats (his flames don't usually go at high heats) to heat up everybody on the floor
  7. Fought King and Queen
  8. Fought King
You really wanna tell me that this is a fair comparison?
 
KingTempest said:
Okay, measure up to when they started fighting
King
  1. Brief clash with Sanji
  2. Fought Marco

Marco
  1. Flew all the way from Sphinx to Onigashima
  2. Used a powerful kick to knock down the Big Mom Pirates' ship, probably the largest actual ship in the series next to TB and Noah
  3. Fought with Perospero
  4. Fought alongside Perospero against a bunch of people
  5. Fought Big Mom and Perospero
  6. Filled up an entire floor of Onigashima with his healing flames constantly at high heats (his flames don't usually go at high heats) to heat up everybody on the floor
  7. Fought King and Queen
  8. Fought King
You really wanna tell me that this is a fair comparison?
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I might be wrong on this, but wasn't there a time gap between the first three things and the rest of that?
 
I dont feel like fact checking that so I'll take your word on it since you're usually reliable. That, and I don't care too much about it since I already admitted him and King are relative in strength. The only thing I vehemently disagree with and will continue to disagree with is that he's anywhere near the Admirals.
 
DaMonkeMan said:
I was saying it seems like Oda first had his mind set on having Maroc and King fight eachother and having Marco win after a hard fight but switched up for an unknown reason (he likely had no other powerful characters that'd fit as a Zoro opponent)
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Well, I at least agree that King's durability was definitely one of the multiple things Oda abruptly changed his mind about during the middle of the arc.
 
Ped2018 said:
I don't think Marco is as strong as an admiral, but the fight would be a mid diff minimum
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Personally, the most Marco should realistically be able to push someone like Kizaru is to Mid-High diff, and that's partly due to his Zoan healing factor which would likely allow him to endure a beating longer than most.
 
BTW, coming back to the latest chapter, I don't know if anybody's seen it, but in the official translation, Loki's long-distance friend is called "Shaggy" - which basically confirms that it is Jarul
 
Ryuga21 said:
“His flames will keep regenerating no matter how many times he is attacked”

He's stopping this attack via literally killing himself and regenerating instantly.
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No... He stopped THE FORCE of kizaru's lasers
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None of them got through him or pushed him back, the only thing it did was dura neg him via heat, creating holes... Literally just read what's stated, it's not hard
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RoronoaxRobin said:
Lmao. Like where did you even say no one ever scales to Mihawk?
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That's how he imagines or believes how strong Mihawk is... basically having the mindset of only Shanks being able to stand up against him

Many people have that mindset
 
DaMonkeMan said:
I never said this lol I can name a couple characters that are equal to him or stronger
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my guy, I don't mean literally... I talking about over estimating and putting someone on a pedestal to make him stand above the rest so that it goes against facts of someone who's not yonko can scale to him
 
DaMonkeMan said:
Are you trying to argue that Kuzan being hurt from a way stronger attack that was actually named is worse than Marco being hurt by a casual punch
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im talking about Blitzing.. And then Garp literally did the same punch using arm haki on both
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And one is attacked while not fully on guard
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Like you must be trolling or something at this point, don't have the time to deal with that... Me busy, bye.
 
DaMonkeMan said:
"Getting cooked" and I just ignored his incessant gum flapping because I didn't care nor have the time for it 😭😭
Bro really expected me to reply to him comparing a conflicted, holding back Kuzan to a determined Marco who obviously wouldn't be letting his guard down when he's flying right towards the enemy
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"and another thing: im not cooked. please dont put in the newspaper that i got cooked."
 
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