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Youtube after Garp does one flashy techniqueTwitter after Lucci stabs the shit out of Garp with Yamato freezing his ribs and Marco warming up his corpse for sea king dinner
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One Piece General Discussion: Elbaph
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Ped2018
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Ahh my glorious king Tekking does NOT miss
DaMonkeMan
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Garp downplay in 2024 is insane
Not as bad as sengoatku downplay though
Not as bad as sengoatku downplay though
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Saying Garp loses a 3v1 against Admiral or near-Admiral level combatants is not downplay.
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Sorry, you think Marco and Yamato are nowhere near Admiral level?
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Not at all. Kizaru's performance reinforced that fact.
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Post-Timeskup Kizaru > Pre-Timeskip Kizaru.
Yamato also had Greenbull pissing and ******** after 1 hit.
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Greenbull absolutely tanked a Hao infused attack from Yamato that left her huffing with barely any damage to show for it. It's okay to say a character is strong without calling them Admiral level.
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They're not close to the Admirals
You could only really argue Yamato is
Lucci has proven to have worse AP than them as well as worse endurance stamina and durability/defense
Marco... Lol. Dude's only fought the Admirals when they were casual or weakened
They're all strong but not top tiers or near top tiers
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Thank you ignoring the second line
DaMonkeMan
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I'm not sure even she is tbh
Especially since the Admirals have Awakenings
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Injured Base Yamato hit him and he went "WOWZA, that's strong."
Marco is literally stated to be able to fight evenly with them.
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If we get to the end of the series and they don't show that they always had this shit I'm laughing in all of your faces.
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Wrong. The databook said that Marco fought evenly with the Admirals during Marineford which never actually happened. Databooks are secondary canon. If they contradict the manga they get discarded.
He tanked her attack but complimented her Haki.
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He fought them, he damaged them, he's stated to have fought evenly, I really don't see the contradiction.
He was clutching his head, he said "man, that hurt" and he said "that's some strong Haki you got there," I don't see the contention.
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He explicitly was unable to damage any of them. Why are we lying?
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I'd imagine that getting hit off-guard would deal at least a minimum amount of damage to him. The fact that all Aramaki said was "that hurt" from her attack proves that she shouldn't be in the same conversation as him, especially considering she felt it was necessary to call the Straw Hats to win.
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When did they damage him with anything except duraneg shit?
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When did any of them attack Marco without him needing to heal afterwards?
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Injured + Base. Yamato's Hybrid form is gonna hit way harder.
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Also, why are you shifting the goalpost? Marco never once harmed any of the Admirals. In fact, Marco literally said that Kizaru was lying when he said that his attack hurt.
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I was genuinely asking(plus regenerative characters are lowkey just like that).
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"He was stated to be on par with them."
"When did he hurt them?"
"When did they hurt him?"
"STOP SHIFTING THE GOALPOSTS!"
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Doesn't change the point that she felt it was necessary to call on the Straw Hats to have any chance of beating him.
On top of that, Admirals are stated by Aramaki to be far above the likes of commander level fighters like Yamato. This shouldn't be a discussion.
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Calling any of them Admiral level is an insult to Wuzan and Wizaru tbh, y'all crazy.
Kuzan low/mid diffs any of them individually tbf.
Kuzan low/mid diffs any of them individually tbf.
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"Commander level fighters" isn't a thing. Benjamin Tenjamin Beckman is a commander. MIHAWK is a commander.
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You're avoiding my question by asking a completely different question. If you know you made a mistake when saying that Marco harmed them just say it. No need to ignore my question.
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Stop acting obtuse. Both of us know the context. Aramaki defeated King and Queen, stating that Admirals can't lose to people like them. Yamato is on their level, meaning he's far above her as well.
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I don't think either of them significantly harmed the other without hax/duraneg stuff.
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The difference is that Marco has actively attacked 2/3 of the Admirals with nothing to show for it while the inverse never happened so reversing the question is a false equivalence.
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Yamato is superior to King and Queen, and frankly, the argument that Yamato is somehow "Nowhere near" Greenbull's level because he said he can't lose to them is odd.
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I mean, I guess he cut a chunk out of Akainu's throat, but that might've been Vista.
That said, if you have proof of the Admirals actually harming him off raw AP, that's all I'm looking for.
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Even if you think that Yamato is stronger than King and Queen, it's inarguable that she's in that tier of power, which was my point.
Except it's not because that's the entire point of Admirals. They are 3 monsters that help maintain the balance of the world. Them being anything higher than a mid diff away from people on Yamato's tier is ridiculous.
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You're using a feat that shows Marco blatantly being unable to interact with Sakazuki's true body due to insufficient Haki to prove that they're close in power. I hope I don't have to explain why that's questionable at best.
Again, you're switching the goalpost.
Marco has attacked the Admirals and failed to do anything at all. The Admirals have not attacked Marco. How in the hell is that fighting evenly?
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They're inferior to the Yonkou and one or two Warlords. Even a sick and dying Whitebeard was superior to the Admirals. They had to call all 3 Admirals and all 7 Warlords and all the Vice Admirals and an army over one Yonkou crew. Yamato fought Kaidou and lived. It really isn't odd.
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Wait, none of them directly attacked him the whole time?
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The only Yonko who are superior to the Admirals are Shanks, maybe Oldbeard, and full power Kaidou. The rest are debatable. The Admirals outshined Whitebeard in every single interaction they had with each other. The only time he landed a hit on Sakazuki was when he was off-guard and he still got up right after to take off half of his face.
The only Admiral who got up to actually fight was Sakazuki. For 90% of the war they sat on their chairs and did absolutely nothing. The 7 Warlords also did nothing but fight each other. The Vice Admirals were fighting the rest of the COMMANDERS.
Sakazuki alone stood against Whitebeards entire top commanders including the Marco who is somehow on that level and won.
So did Kin'emon. Her feats against Kaidou are equivalent to Vista's "feats" against Mihawk. The same Vista who needed to gang up on Sakazuki to have any semblance of a chance. While what she did was somewhat impressive, it's not anywhere near enough to but her close to the Admirals in power. I don't even know why I'm entertaining this.
Not a single one. Borsalino did and he got blown up, being forced to regenerate. "He's a regeneration archetype" is honestly just a cope that people use to look over any anti-feats.
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..Punk Hazard?
Also Aramaki was casually terraforming Wano into a lush grassland just by walking there
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Luffy, Big Mom, and Blackbeard are all superior.
1st link doesn't work, and the other 2 are just Kuzan using DF powers and Akainu using DF powers.
Kinda funny that WB managed to sneak up on him, I never understood that.
Nonetheless, the face melting is not an AP feat, it's heat shit, and WB kept fighting after that.
Is there a scan for the end of the fight?
Never disrespect Vista again, he's Roger level.
Then don't. It's clear you're not enjoying this.
Wild.
That certainly shows Marco and an explosion of some kind.
If I said that it was obviously a joke, and if I didn't there was no reason to bring it up.
