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The way he ended it so quickly with one CoA move leads me to believe he could have neg diffed him off the rip if not for Oda needing to stall him
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One Piece General Discussion: Elbaph
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Ah, so he did use a bit of Haki at the start. That said, he does still go "bro, you're dogshit, Luffy shouldn't have to even look at your ugly ******' face, don't even start with your weak ass."No Haki?
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That's in comparison to Luffy, not himself.
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Anyone else believe Sabo has ACoA
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We'll see eventually, possibly in Elbaf
Speaking of Elbaf anyone else think it's going to be Urouge's arc? I mean, that's basic process of elimination, as he and BB are the only Supernovas/Worst Gen members that haven't been extremely prominent in a particular arc yet, but still. He should be somewhat relevant in it.
Speaking of Elbaf anyone else think it's going to be Urouge's arc? I mean, that's basic process of elimination, as he and BB are the only Supernovas/Worst Gen members that haven't been extremely prominent in a particular arc yet, but still. He should be somewhat relevant in it.
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Y'know what grinds my gears? People who use Mihawk clashing with Vista to prove he's not a top/god tier
Like Kaido did something similar with the Scabbards but when ever you post a panel of him getting stabbed by them and what not they always scream "BUT HE WAS CASUAL THO!!"
But somehow that doesn't apply with Mihawk and Vista
Keep in mind Mihawk is literally waiting for someone stronger than Shanks but somehow he's only equal to a guy that's possibly not even 1/4th of Shanks' strength
Edit: Also Aramaki was stalled by Morley but he's still a top tier
Like Kaido did something similar with the Scabbards but when ever you post a panel of him getting stabbed by them and what not they always scream "BUT HE WAS CASUAL THO!!"
But somehow that doesn't apply with Mihawk and Vista
Keep in mind Mihawk is literally waiting for someone stronger than Shanks but somehow he's only equal to a guy that's possibly not even 1/4th of Shanks' strength
Edit: Also Aramaki was stalled by Morley but he's still a top tier
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Yes. Some channels are saying Enel is coming back and those two are gonna throw down.
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Enel should come back though. HE IS LITERALLY THE MOON GOD. He's the opposite of Luffy, and I want to see him with Future Sight. Plus, "El Thor," lightning, god. Obvious connection.
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plus has beef with potential Vegapunk robots
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"Zoro turned off his haki mid fight" is such a dumb point, I can't believe people make it unironically. But it's marginally less delusional than "Zoro won the instant he used any haki"
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I don't see why it matters. Even if he did use KoH/ACoC before, it'd just be an outlier, since he took out Lucci with basic CoA afterwards
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People don't just flip Haki switches. You have a limited amount, and you concentrate on keeping it up. Even if he was using Haki, he wasn't serious.
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idk why you're assuming it's basic CoA, it's not like Oda has a consistent art style for it anymore.
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If it was a big attack with a bunch of Haki, he would have drawn a big attack with a bunch of Haki.
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After a rage boost. Also that wasn’t basic CoA.
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He did. Look at the page again
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I saw that. Long sparks. That's a good amount of Haki, but the attack itself is just normal Buso slashes.
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More likely ACoC since it has the sparks and Zoro was using it early in the fight. To say he was holding back and simultaneously using ACoC is stupid.
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I’m aware that sparks don’t mean ACoC but given that Zoro was using ACoC early and Lucci was just fine, I’m inclined to believe Zoro used ACoC here.
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Proof? Is it just "There were flames?"
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We never saw him clash against that still
And we've literally seen Lucci get stalemated against 2 swords and no buso haki usage, while 3 swords with no buso haki overpowers him
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There are flames and sparks. That’s KoH.
Sparks are in the air here. He’s using buso at least.
Lucci’s not getting overpowered here, also check the flames.
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no that's just normal lightning sparks from a clash
He literally is... He's on the defensive
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being on the defensive doesn't necessarily mean he was being overpowered. The fact that Lucci is holding his position without being knocked back or backpedaling points more to it just being a stalemate.
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Again I don't see why any of this matters when he got shredded by one CoA attack
At most it's ACoA but usually you see flames or thicker lightning when it's ACoA or ACoC
At most it's ACoA but usually you see flames or thicker lightning when it's ACoA or ACoC
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This is just not true... And he is backpedaling (the clashes is further in front of lucci while zoro's clashes is the same distance as his current sword positions), Zoros the one going forward and overpowering, while here both backpedaled from the clash
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Then why are they black?
No, he’s not budging an inch. Check the middle panel on the right. It’s a perspective shift that makes it look like he’s being knocked back.
He was using ACoC earlier. It makes zero sense for Havuna Hunt to not be an ACoC move.
Lucci clashed with Gear 5, it is by no means inconsistent for him to clash with KoH
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they aren't. (Shusui is always black... Don't use that as a reference, his other sword is completely white)
Cap.
It does when we see two swords zoro stale mate him with no buso
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Are you sure that's not perspective? We see Lucci’s legs in both upper right and lower panels and his stance is the same in both, and neither of his legs portray any kind of movement or motion.
The difference is that Lucci isn't making an offensive action in the previous panel, he's simply defending himself. They aren't “clashing” directly, as they did in that panel.
Just like, say, a boxer putting his guard up to ward off another boxers blows.
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And Luffy kicked Lucci with Armament and Lucci tanked that, but later Lucci got clapped by a punch with no Haki in it.
Oda can be inconsistent
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Vs several other instances of him clashing with Zoro using haki.
1. Damage piles up
2. Luffy flung himself using the environment and rubberized Lucci as well so his attacks were boosted.
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He's an Awakened Zoan. He has enhanced recovery.
Doesn't really matter, Armament is a bigger power boost than that.
