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it means harder/more potent haki, not punch harder... Where the f you getting that fromI'd say "higher level" doesn't inherently mean "punch harder" much less "get physically stronger and then you will be able to do internal damage" either, you know.
Still don't know why you're talking about physical strength..And IMO, "The strength of those who have mastered "high ki" is of a different level." doesn't really mean anything here? We're talking about how to unlock these abilities not how you're classified after unlocking them, mind you, this statement is taking Future Sight into account so physical strength is obviously not the point here either.
Read aboveAs for that Katakuri scan... yeah? I am not saying potency doesn't exist so idk why you brought that scan up,
Facts > you're assumptionsIndeed, didn't Hyogoro say (or at least imply) that the flowing haki he was teaching to Luffy is common in Wano? That wouldn't make sense if Buso layers was somehow tied to it.
|Effective against physical disables other than nature-based abilities
Besides natural-types, the Armament Color's high ki is also effective against physical nullifiers such as rubber and mochi. If both parties are Haiki-users, the degree of their proficiency is important.
It isn't inherently higher, it just gives them an easy advantage.Ignoring your freudian slip, do we scale layers like that? I thought sub applications (such as their haki barrier and Luffy's internal damage) were treated as side powers rather than "advanced is inherently higher than non-advanced".
You're the one who said "One Piece has no political themes," right?Even the basics of one piece can't be understood by Americans/influence of American people... This world is f ed up
Yes if you understand what I’m saying… it has nothing to do with real life politicsYou're the one who said "One Piece has no political themes," right?
Read through Skypiea and tell me it isn't about colonialism.Yes if you understand what I’m saying… it has nothing to do with real life politics
Nothing to do with real life… one piece is about the world one piece, putting real life stuff into that world means nothing to real life.Read through Skypiea and tell me it isn't about colonialism.
Bro literally has no clue how symbolism works.Nothing to do with real life… one piece is about the world one piece, putting real life stuff into that world means nothing to real life.
Don’t care…Bro literally has no clue how symbolism works.
Can logia control their element even if they didn’t produced it? She can apply haki to her ice abilities.Yamato beating Akainu is funny.
The colored trio are literally hard counters to Yamato. Akainu has passive heat aura that exceeds the temperature of her ice so there goes that.
Kuzan is ice itself so he can most likely manipulate the ice she generates and to a much greater degree while also being essentially immune to her ice.
Kizaru literally cannot be frozen due to how his Devil Fruit works. You literally cannot freeze photons so good luck with that.
They all have durability negation that would work on her, Akainu can vaporize her, Kizaru can outright spam lasers with durability negation properties and Kuzan's cold temperature likely far exceeds her resistance.
Yes… Remember Kizaru talking with Saturn about thatCan logia control their element even if they didn’t produced it? She can apply haki to her ice abilities.
We didn't Kizaru controlling the laser dome; we just him not being hurt by it.Yes… Remember Kizaru talking with Saturn about that
There you goexcept for Crocodile in the desert perhaps.
If I remember correctly monet did as well?Mr.0, who manipulates sand at will, excels in desert combat where he can make the terrain his ally!
It doesn't say that Zunesha's trunk is 20 km in length, but Zunesha's body is 20 km in length (and 35 km in height) which are figures given to us in the Vivre Card.
isn't it 35km in height and 20 km in length above water? Which the trunk reaches with its lengthIt doesn't say that Zunesha's trunk is 20 km in length, but Zunesha's body is 20 km in length (and 35 km in height) which are figures given to us in the Vivre Card.
isn't it 35km in height and 20 km in length above water? Which the trunk reaches with its length
Cesear Clown manipulates air despite not producing it himself.I don't think we've ever seen a Logia user control part of their element that they didn't produce; except for Crocodile in the desert perhaps.
Did greenbull do anything like that or no?Cesear Clown manipulates air despite not producing it himself.
As well as absorbing poison gas on more than one occasion.
Is it canon? I know oda used it for some basis on some one piece characters and I think wano but I don’t think it’s canon.Did you all saw the new Ryuma one shot? Also pretty sure is canon so we could use it to scale him (and maybe other people)
No? When talking about Advanced (Internal damage and FS) it's talking about a higher level of mastery/control and therefore application of one's haki, "harder" haki has nothing to do with these advanced stages.it means harder/more potent haki, not punch harder... Where the f you getting that from
Yeah, that's potency, which I am saying doesn't tie to ones ability to use flowing haki, future sight or any other advanced stage.And as shown with katakuri, higher level means that... (harder/more potent Haki)
Swap any time I said "physical strength" by "haki potency" I guess.Still don't know why you're talking about physical strength..
"Your"Facts > you're assumptions
A higher level of mastery and application, not a higher level of potency, again, higher level doesn't mean "stronger" or "more layered" in this context.Buso potency is tied to their level of haki which internal destruction is classified as (a higher level)
They demostrated buso emission when Kaido clashed vs Luffy & BM KOed P1.Like, did Kaido and Big Mom even showcase advanced buso?
The no touch thing, right?They demostrated buso emission when Kaido clashed vs Luffy & BM KOed P1.
YupThe no touch thing, right?
Yes, Zoro has it. There was a thread that made his Breath/Steel Cutting Technique count as Advacned Armament. The other 2, nada so far.In that case, do Zoro, King and Aramaki have any kind of Advanced Buso? Iirc Zoro's Alabasta amp has something to do with Buso, not sure it's Advanced, the other 2 don't have anything afaik and they have more layers than the Scabbards.
Yes it does... Katakuri literally says so...A higher level of mastery and application, not a higher level of potency, again, higher level doesn't mean "stronger" or "more layered" in this context.
how is that an example of countering their intangabilty, using Crocodile is the best example for thatRegarding versus match-ups: For cross-verse matchup battles, logia Devil Fruit users are susceptible to attacks that are capable countering their elemental intangibility (ex: fire melting ice)
It's worse when Kuzan doesn't even have the Ice-Ice Fruit; more so, just the general element of "cold".how is that an example of countering their intangabilty, using Crocodile is the best example for that
It's worse when Kuzan doesn't even have the Ice-Ice Fruit; more so, just the general element of "cold".
Kuma is him, his spirit was soo strong his soul came backI'm a little late to this but HOLYY MOLLY, that ought to sting. Gorosei fans coping hard rn
He's not talking about Advanced Buso as he doesn't have Advanced Buso, wtf are you talking about?Yes it does... Katakuri literally says so...
He's talking about levels of arm haki, the same which advanced buso is stated to be of a higher level of.He's not talking about Advanced Buso as he doesn't have Advanced Buso, wtf are you talking about?
The panel before this, he punches him so hard his forehead becomes a ********.I'm a little late to this but HOLYY MOLLY, that ought to sting. Gorosei fans coping hard rn
So... if there were a databook, hypothetically, saying Marco had Haki on par with the Admirals, he would have to be Advanced?He's talking about levels of arm haki, the same which advanced buso is stated to be of a higher level of.
It's not a hard thing to understand, different levels are different potencies, as katakuri said, which internal destruction is referred to as being at a higher level