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One Piece General Discussion: Elbaph

SlendVeny said:
Jack fought both Inu and Neko for a solid amount of time, with them having many hours to rest in between switches.
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They were completely relative in AP. Jack just has far better stamina, endurance, and regen.
SlendVeny said:
Doji was roughly equal to Inu, and fought Jack to a STANDSTILL, he didn't win.
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In their first encounter, Doji was able to slice Jack's blade in half and give him a large slash in the chest.
 
Kachon123 said:
They literally are.

Sulong Inuarashi > Base Inuarashi ~ Hybrid Jack
Sulong Nekomamushi > Base Nekomamushi ~ Hybrid Jack
Ashura Doji >~ Hybrid Jack
DF Kanjuro > Ashura Doji >~ Hybrid Jack
Kawamatsu ~ Kanjuro ~ Hybrid Jack
Kiku ~ Kawamatsu ~ Hybrid Jack
Izou > Kiku ~ Hybrid Jack
Kin'emon > Kanjruo ~ Hybrid Jack
Denjiro > Other Scabbards
Raizo > Kaen Daiko Kaidou > Hybrid Jack
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Speaking of which, would Denjiro stand a chance against Queen or even King?
 
Are you certain? He is the strongest scabbard, and as such likely considerably stronger than Jack.
 
Antvasima said:
Are you certain? He is the strongest scabbard, and as such likely considerably stronger than Jack.
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A younger Queen with just a flaming stick and no Zoan form fought him evenly.

Zoan Queen took hits from top tiers like Marco, and Zoan King is a beast of his own.
 
Eseseso said:
Asides from the fact that I don't agree with Drake being below Jack, Drake fought Apoo, who is a good bit above the Scabbards in feats.
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We heavily overrate Drake and Apoo ngl. They "scale" to a Zoro that was conserving power for the rooftop.
 
Imagine if Brook had an Awakening, and it was the ability to manifest his actual soul, like some Shinigami shit.
 
Tetsucabrah said:
We heavily overrate Drake and Apoo ngl. They "scale" to a Zoro that was conserving power for the rooftop.
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1. Apoo also took a Punk Gibson from an utterly enraged Kid (and was not defending himself since Kid surprised him), and took moderate damage (lost a tooth, was scraped, and his glasses broke). He proceeded to smack-talk Kidd and then draw blood from him with a sound attack. He also drew blood with his DF from Zoro, and hurt Luffy enough to briefly knock him out. He also drew blood from the CP0 agent Maha with just a kick, albeit he was still defeated by the latter and forced to flee like the snake he is.

2. Base Drake blocked (but was still eventually overpowered by) an attack from an irate Base Yamato and fought Apoo off-screen in Base, while Zoan Drake actually hurt Apoo (though tbf Apoo was injured) and hurt Guernica off-screen (with Guernica calling him a good fight), albeit he only downscales from Guernica since Guernica still mid-diffed him. His Zoan form also was shown taking sound attacks from Apoo off-screen, with Drake later shown having endured these albeit with bruises.
 
SlendVeny said:
Imagine if Brook had an Awakening, and it was the ability to manifest his actual soul, like some Shinigami shit.
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Doesn't he already do that?
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Eseseso said:
1. Apoo also took a Punk Gibson from an utterly enraged Kid (and was not defending himself since Kid surprised him), and took moderate damage (lost a tooth, was scraped, and his glasses broke). He proceeded to smack-talk Kidd and then draw blood from him with a sound attack. He also drew blood with his DF from Zoro, and hurt Luffy enough to briefly knock him out. He also drew blood from the CP0 agent Maha with just a kick, albeit he was still defeated by the latter and forced to flee like the snake he is.

2. Base Drake blocked (but was still eventually overpowered by) an attack from an irate Base Yamato and fought Apoo off-screen in Base, while Zoan Drake actually hurt Apoo (though tbf Apoo was injured) and hurt Guernica off-screen (with Guernica calling him a good fight), albeit he only downscales from Guernica since Guernica still mid-diffed him. His Zoan form also was shown taking sound attacks from Apoo off-screen, with Drake later shown having endured these albeit with bruises.
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All this for both to be on Jack's level if not weaker.
 
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