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One Piece General Discussion: Elbaph

What are some examples of characters getting stronger while doing basically nothing (outside of crocodile).
 
In my experience, it's the opposite.

They see Ace struggle to fight old Whitebeard and get beaten by Blackbeard, yet they insist that he could stomp Hybrid Kaido.
 
Ngl, these profiles are giving me conniptions, especially pre-ts Luffy's goofy ahh key set up.
 
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Mfs will see Ace literally fight Whitebeard 100 times and clash with him and say "He can't beat Queen"
Mfs see Ace get oneshot by a basic Gura punch and barely be able to burn Whitebeard's hand, and then also see Queen severely harm Marco and take hits from Big Mom without much issue and then think it's a stomp on either side
 
"Severely harm" is a bit much but, since WoG confirmed that Phoenix Marco does have a physical body (hence why we scale Base King w/ a no Haki sword to cutting Marco's wing), Queen's cyborg gun putting a bunch of big holes in Marco is valid.
 
A lot of things pierce Marco's phoenix body because it's not really supposed to have high durability in the first place.
 
"Severely harm" is a bit much but, since WoG confirmed that Phoenix Marco does have a physical body (hence why we scale Base King w/ a no Haki sword to cutting Marco's wing), Queen's cyborg gun putting a bunch of big holes in Marco is valid.
THAT'S LITERALLY PIERCING DAMAGE, WE CAN'T SCALE THAT. WE DO NOT SCALE PEOPLE TO GUNS.
 
"Severely harm" is a bit much but, since WoG confirmed that Phoenix Marco does have a physical body (hence why we scale Base King w/ a no Haki sword to cutting Marco's wing), Queen's cyborg gun putting a bunch of big holes in Marco is valid.
Putting big holes in someone's body is severely harming them
 
It's valid regardless but Marco's flames have "special properties" which seem to repel flame attacks.
Sure, but we see him get hit directly and not get a hole blown through him.

What gives bullets their alleged piercing damage. If the KE of King's bullets simply knocked Marco back while Queen's blew holed through him, then that not only validates Queen's feat, but means Queen's attack scale above the flame bullets.
 
Sure, but we see him get hit directly and not get a hole blown through him.

What gives bullets their alleged piercing damage. If the KE of King's bullets simply knocked Marco back while Queen's blew holed through him, then that not only validates Queen's feat, but means Queen's attack scale above the flame bullets.
Tbf Marco was actively guarding against King's flame bullets but wasn't against Queen.

Feat still valid tho
 
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