Ped2018
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Yeah, he bled, BUT HE WASN'T ******* EVAPORATED FROM EXISTENCE LIKE YOU GUYS MAKE THAT OUT TO BE
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One Piece General Discussion: Elbaph
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You used them losing to some of the Admirals as proof as to why they're not around Admiral level. Yes you did.
DaMonkeMan
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Strawman of godly proportions
Yeah, cause when they lose to them that badly, they aren't Admiral level.
DaMonkeMan
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Despite that Kuzan was still matching him for most of their battle.
Stop ignoring the fact that it was an extreme diff fight going on for 10 days.
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Based on?
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Doesn't change the fact that he has better haki, better AP, and just as much experience as the other Admirals. Using him as a basis for being Admiral level is flat out idiotic
DaMonkeMan
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What
Not by a huge margin, again he still couldn't beat Kuzan for 10 days until what ever made him get strong enough to win the fight.
I said he's vastly inferior to the Admirals when the **** did we ever mention King
Ped2018
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Saying that Queen isn't in the same ballpark as the other guys mentioned above bruhhhhhh
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Marco could interact with Aokiji, but couldn't interact with Akainu.
Doesn't change the fact that he simply scales above.
There are a lot of factors that could have played into that fight.
For example, Akainu was still heavily injured after his fight with Whitebeard, having shattered internals, while Aokiji was relatively fine.
DaMonkeMan
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He only clashed with the other 2 when they weren't using their DFs.
Do we even know when the fight happened??
Matchups.
Admirals have better Haki which in turn helps them because Queen can't touch them.
They also just have better stats overall which against helps them.
And his tech won't work on them, meanwhile some of his tech could work on King ( i.e lasers or trying to crush him with his neck ).
Of course, King still beats Queen, but Queen has a better chance against him than he does with the Admirals.
Also I still believe the Admirals beat King even if he has some stats on their level.
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Doesn't Aokiji's DF not give him any Intangibility?
DaMonkeMan
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True. But Marco wouldn't be able to hurt him if he had better Haki.
However, again, he never used his DF on Marco.
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Aokiji was bleeding. If it wasn't a haki-based attack, he would've been broken to pieces and regenerated without injury like when Robin broke his back (pause)
Ped2018
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Well, you're thinking of characters that have good matchups against admirals because of hax, i am thinking of "characters that are not Admiral level but can still fight against them" in more of a Stats type of way
DaMonkeMan
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You mean from Jozu's attack? Not Marco.
Yeah, but Queen doesn't have stats on their level is my point.
POSSIBLY durability but I really doubt that.
In fact no, not even durability, given what Marco's fireball did to Zoan Queen.
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Ped2018
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I agree with that, for sure, but i also think that he's gonna put up a fight, not a huge danger for an admiral or nothing, but maybe a hit or two, idk
DaMonkeMan
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First was with Base Kizaru, which Marco won by kicking him into the ground.
Second was with base Kuzan which... I actually don't remember hold on let me find that.
Okay, why would Kuzan fight him while he's wounded?
Not to mention Jinbe saying thy were almost equal in strength which would make 0 sense if a weakened Akainu could beat healthy Kuzan.
How though
Ped2018
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Well, actually, i don't think WB commanders ever hit the admirals in a fair fight, so i don't think a hit or two anymore
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Kizaru was midair and successfully blocked without it harming him at all.
Marco kicked an off-guard Kuzan into rocks.
Is there any reason as to why he wouldn't?
Does Jinbe know the nuances of the fight or is all he heard was that they fought for 10 days?
Why not? He has better AP, Elemental Advantage, and better Haki.
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Because I doubt it took very long at all for Sengoku to resign and for ******** to announce Akainu as the new Fleet Admiral.
Like, seriously, takes more assumptions to say it took awhile then to say it happened like, the day after
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Managed to hit a guy who doesn't have flight out of the air with a kick that was stated to not even harm him*Marco actually managed to send Kizaru flying though
Ped2018
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Fair then
DaMonkeMan
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You still need better strength to do this.
A fly wouldn't kick him out of the air just because it has flight and Kizaru doesn't.
There was a clear time gap though, and again I doubt they'd actually have a weakened Akainu fight healthy Kuzan and think it's really fair.
Yeah I found it
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It would because Kizaru has nothing to support himself off of.
You wouldn't actually.
Based on?
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Sengoku seemingly resigned at sometime during nightfall
If I were Drong or whatever his name is, I sure wouldn't be pussy-footing around when it comes to selecting a new Fleet Admiral since there always has to be someone with that status, and there's a pretty clear answer since both Aokiji and Kizaru are too lax to have as Fleet admiral, especially with the Navy JUST losing two of its best fighters by a long shot in the same night.
So yeah, safe to say Aokiji didn't dick around when it came to challenging Akainu.
DaMonkeMan
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Kong*
And we don't know when he resigned and when they fought.
Who
This literally isn't how it works
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Thank you.
Kizaru didn't want to take ANY orders from Sakazuki. I VERY heavily doubt he heard that announcement, and then went to go take a ****** nap.
Sengoku and Garp.
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Do you understand how physics works?
Kizaru blocked Marco's initial kick with his arm. After that, it because a kick. Because Kizaru had no solid base to use in order to push back, he got sent downwards.
DaMonkeMan
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I don't really understand this one
Like why Kizaru is being mentioned
Also honestly he probably was too busy getting high to understand Sengoku.
Ah. Right.
What?
Do you think his arm magically stopped working and he just couldn't push against Marco's leg in the air?
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Kuzan. Whatever.
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Basically he's forgetting that pushing against Marco's leg still means pushing himself down
DaMonkeMan
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I'm not sure how you can misinterpret a panel as clear cut as that.
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What about the admirals
DaMonkeMan
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YC2 level
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He only won because of Elemental Superiority
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My Oars Jr agenda going way up rn.
