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Do you not remember how he knocked out Apoo?
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One Piece General Discussion: Elbaph
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I do. When did Zoro say Shishi Sonson?
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He's a Zoro Downplayer because that means Zoro>Sanji
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Believe me, I wish that was the case.
But the anime and the way he held his sword support the notion that he used an Iai attack.
Besides, how could he one-shot Apoo with 1 sword when his 2-sword Buso couldn't overpower Apoo.
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I just don't think he did it with Raw AP, since with 2 swords he couldn't beat Apoo but he needed only 1 sword to one-shot him.
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Fr, Apoo and Drake can't compare with a serious Zoro
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Zoro is him
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Well, duh.
But as much as I support Rooftop Zoro being >= Base Kidd, we can't use him one-shotting Apoo since that was with ShiShi SonSon.
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He didn't say it, but he used the distinctive unsheathing and sheathing style that we only see for his Iai attacks.
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DaMonkeMan
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There's a lot of evidence for that. People who spend their time trying to prove Sanji is above Zoro aren't really fans of him, just wankers.
Real fans appreciate his character, design, etc.
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Punk Gibson is weak, shouldn't be scaling to big mom at all tbh.
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Not sure how that applies here, if anything Zoro one-shotting with AP and not dura neg like Kachon says is even more impressive.
That's fair.
That's further support for Buso Zoro > Base Kidd, which I consider an absolute win!
I mean, Kidd did fight BM in his Base off-screen and was fine.
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Which is why I ignored him
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This doesn't mean much, we already know he can combat the Yonko from the rooftop but this justification means nothing when we don't know what happened; we don't know what attacks were used so he very well could have been using more powerful techniques than punk gibson.
Overpowered a BM attack meant for fodder (same reason Sanji & Luffy don't scale in WCI) and his metal arm left dust on her face which we see her shaking off a panel prior. He shouldn't scale at all with that attack.
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There was no haki in that attack
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Occam's razor, plus if his Punk Rotten got one-shot by BM using a single Homie I doubt his off-screen shit was that much stronger than his base.
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How do you know?
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Because we see that there was no haki on his sword right before sheathing it. No reason to assume he applied haki.
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No monkeyb im a human afterallUse brain more and maybe you'd know
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Prime WB? Primebeard makes both of them sushi
Stabilized Oldbeard? Still wins
Marineford WB with Sickness? Gets wrecked from them
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If Punk Rotten was one-shot by one homie BM then Punk Gibson which is a weaker technique shouldn't be scaling to Cognac BM at all.
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I mean that's a good point and I agree with you, but I'm not the one you need to convince.
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Do characters scale to their durability by default if they're a physical fighter
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No, but their Durability would scale to their AP.
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He said Lions Song which is Shishisonson in Japanese iirc
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No he didn't.
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Forgot to mention, he was able to hurt and draw blood from Maha with just a kick.
He got overpowered off-screen, but hurting Maha with just his physicals is still impressive.
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Not enough to put him above yc3 level.
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the stance Zoro takes everytime he used Shi Sonson is always like that. Bc he doesnt mention the name of the attack doesnt mean he didnt use it. We have seen characters sometimes using abilities with named attacks but the same named attacks sometimes arent mentioned but still are used
