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No, this high key shouldn't even be a question/debatable in a way
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One Piece General Discussion: Elbaph
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DaMonkeMan
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I guess. I'm not sure rn.
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I disagree. It a best case scenario for Jinbe it would be a low diff.
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Jinbe’s been power creeped pretty hard. Him not facing a commander in Wano hurt his standing in the power scale pretty significantly.
imo, I wouldn’t be surprised if Jinbe was revealed to be closer to the Sanji/Zoro then we have him, but as it is now Sanji blitzes and smokes him.
imo, I wouldn’t be surprised if Jinbe was revealed to be closer to the Sanji/Zoro then we have him, but as it is now Sanji blitzes and smokes him.
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DaMonkeMan
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I think it depends. On land he likely loses. In water I think he wins.
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It makes no difference.
DaMonkeMan
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It does? On land he doesn't have an abundance of water to use.
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How would that change the outcome?
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I think a better question is who’s a more skilled Martial Artist between the two fr fr. We can debate about stats all day long, but IMO that's the most interesting part of either character.
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Sanji BY FAR
DaMonkeMan
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Both are really skilled at their martial arts honestly.
Jinbe is stronger under water.
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DaMonkeMan
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Wait why does strength matter if Jinbe has Dura Neg?
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DaMonkeMan
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Idk if his Regen works against Jinbe's dura neg, iirc Jinbe manipulates the water inside your body to clap your insides.
He does indeed have better speed
He doesn't have better Haki, however.
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His dura neg is trash, Fishman Karate becomes noticeably less useful the closer the defender is to the attacker in power, and Sanji is way more durable than Jinbe's AP regardless of the stats in the profiles.
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DaMonkeMan
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He doesn't, tanks to KT's downgrade thread.
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Any proof that Jinbe has better haki than Sanji?
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Where does Jinbe's haki scale?
DaMonkeMan
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https://www.vsbattles.com/threads/versus-thread-removal-requests-new-forum.107533/post-5308175 This is the thread where KT mentions that Sanji's Haki is inferior to Ace and Marco's
Jinbe was equal to Ace in the past thus his Haki should reasonably scale to Ace's
Jinbe was equal to Ace in the past thus his Haki should reasonably scale to Ace's
DaMonkeMan
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I'm not sure how to reply to that but again if Ace's Haki is > Current Sanji and Jinbe was equal to Ace's then Jinbe's Haki should be above Current Sanji's.
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That just not how it works. Ace likely got several haki blooms from fighting Whitebeard over and over and over again while Jinbe sat on his ass all day.
By that logic, Doflamingo should have comparable haki to current Luffy.
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Well, I personally disagree with that, and I'll leave it at that.
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Considering Oda bothered to include Jinbe with the M3 when they were considering jumping in in case Momo and the Scabbards needed their help against Greenbull, rather than leave him behind with Franky and the others at the Festival, I don't think Jinbe's standing in the power scale was hurt significantly at all because his opponent was a Tobi Roppo.
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Heck, Esseso might make a High 6-A Jinbe crt in the future iirc (it would be for Dura though).
DaMonkeMan
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Jinbe has been fighting people recently so he's definitely not washed up anymore.
That guy's obsessed with making everyone H6A for some reason.
But I'll let him cook.
DaMonkeMan
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Damn completely forgot about that one.
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I mean, I've been chattin with King, and he and I agreed that I should make a High 6-A Issho CRT, but only once the Water 7 CRT is over.
DaMonkeMan
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Wow.
After saying this, he goes to make everyone H6A.
This is what's happening now. I'm the only one left with common sense. The only one not trying to mindlessly make everyone H6A. Okay..
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Sanji wank I see
You guys acting like it's not questionable whos 3rd strongest fighter...
You guys acting like it's not questionable whos 3rd strongest fighter...
Bro... You have common sense... Jinbe should've had admiral/yonko lvl haki since way back... Akainu, cognac and possibly defending against soul pocus from big momWow.
After saying this, he goes to make everyone H6A.
This is what's happening now. I'm the only one left with common sense. The only one not trying to mindlessly make everyone H6A. Okay..
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Ohh... You weren't talking about jinbe 
DaMonkeMan
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True but the problem is they're making everyone H6A except the people that actually deserve it.
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And you don't think fujitora deserves it?
DaMonkeMan
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That's not what I'm referring to.
Like, why can people like Lucci get a H6A profile for 2 little feats, while Jinbe and Fujitora still don't have one despite having way more feats that are actually valid?
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Yee that's bs... As I remember seeing luffy play with lucci as a child or something, tho I don't know the full context of it but it seem like they weren't comparable at all... Scaling to gear 5 makes no sense from what I have seen
