One Piece General Discussion: Elbaph

[WrongIdea21]

That's not from a result of them manipulating Chinjao's biology, but just punching him hard in the head.

It would be like if you made someone bleed from your punch, you don't just get "Blood Manipulation".

But Sanji had it from changing Duval's Face

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Would Mink Tribe qualified as sort of "mystery"? I want to use Carrot against non-busted servants

Btw back to what i said, can anyone answer this?

 

[Eseseso]

Am I the only one who thinks people may be sleeping on Sengoku's power?

The dude restrained Garp in his base, implying his Base is comparable to Garp's at least, so there's a chance that his Zoan form could go even somewhat above Garp's!

There's a reason Roger viewed him as a worthy opponent!

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Watch as Sengoku awakening/true power is making him turn into real Buddha and achieved enlightement.....thus making One Piece in tier 1 due of Boddhitsava shennanigans

 

[14405User]

on road to laugh tale volume 4 Buggy is on par with Mihawk, Xebec, Rayleigh, and Dragon WTF. oda is serious with this

 

[WrongIdea21]

You shouldn't underestimate My Dude Buggy

 

[ByAsura]

on road to laugh tale volume 4 Buggy is on par with Mihawk, Xebec, Rayleigh, and Dragon WTF. oda is serious with this

Yeah. He's clearly way stronger than them.

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

on road to laugh tale volume 4 Buggy is on par with Mihawk, Xebec, Rayleigh, and Dragon WTF. oda is serious with this

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

The dude restrained Garp in his base, implying his Base is comparable to Garp's at least, so there's a chance that his Zoan form could go even somewhat above Garp's!

No... Garp himself literally even told him to not let me go... Plus even if it was a valid feat it would only count for lifting strength

 

[SnookB]

RTLT4 is out already??

 

[Fireld]

RTLT4 is out already??

Only for those who have unlocked very advanced observation haki or that know japanese

 

[Eseseso]

Ok then.

On one last note, since Snakeman uses compression in his attacks, shouldn't he be 4x base Luffy?

You know, since compression is a 4x multiplier

 

[CloverDragon03]

We

Are

Not

Scaling

Zoro

To

That

Any

More

Bro had enough

 

[Therefir]

Road to laugh tale 4 states that Gear 5th Luffy gets stronger the more he laughs.

 

[Magmag]

Road to laugh tale 4 states that Gear 5th Luffy gets stronger the more he laughs.

luffy is wall level when pissed

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Collection of Secret Settings
[Vol.4]

In the fourth volume of the collection of concept notes, we present the just-appeared "GEAR5" all at once!

GEAR5
This is Luffy's highest point! The shocking "Gear 5" setting collection!

Dramatic changes in "GEAR 5"! Various sketches that further emphasize Luffy's "Luffy-ness" exist!

Unpredictable! Free and Unconventional "Gear 5" Action Collection!

Luffy himself said, "I can do everything I wanted to do," and "Gear 5" is characterized by free actions that transcend common sense. Even his reactions to attacks change.

→Luffy's expression and back view as he takes on Kaidou, and there is also a note about the color, "pure white. It was decided that he would turn white when he activated his ability! / → "Gear 5" is a new type of action that is beyond the norm. It was already decided that the color would be white along with the color of the body! There is also a note about the color. The color of the figure is "pure white," and it shows Luffy's expression as he challenges Kaidou, as well as his face and the face of the two men who are about to attack him.

The word "giant" among others such as Nika and the sun god. There was also the idea that upon awakening, the body would become huge...!

Also detailed notes on ↑nica. The description "Imagination is power" and the disadvantages of animal-based awakening are of interest to me!

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Damn... So.... Gear 5th transcends logic/common sense...

 

[Magmag]

wait am i reading this wrong, is it saying luffys skin turns completely white aswell? or is it talking about the retconned version...

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

wait am i reading this wrong, is it saying luffys skin turns completely white aswell? or is it talking about the retconned version...

It's talking about gear 5 and I think what the decision was for gear 5th's look

 

[SnookB]

wait am i reading this wrong, is it saying luffys skin turns completely white aswell? or is it talking about the retconned version...

I like that ngl. It's how I always imagined G5 after the "pure white" comment by Yamato was made. He's basically like an old ass rubber hose style character both in actions and appearance

 

[Eseseso]

He was blocking attacks from King without Enma's Haki.

Durability

He blocked Hakai from Big Mom and Kaidou without any Haki at all.

Durability

He made Kaidou's body throb without any Haki.

Each of the scabbards did like twice that much damage to Kaido in their base forms, and Zoro needed Killer's help just to do that.

He badly damaged Apoo without any Haki.

Who was already weakened by Kid's Punk Gibson to a notable extent.

His durability feats from Big Mom and Kaidou didn't require Enma's Haki.

Ok, so he has 6-A dura, I'm not doubting that, but without Haoshoku Infusion or Enma (say it was knocked into the sea or something), he's Zoan Tobiroppo tier in regards to AP.

 

[Damage3245]

By the way; I thought that characters could still use invisible Haki even if they don't apply the visible hardening?

How are we to know that every feat without the visible hardening is done for sure without Haki? Maybe it is just explained by CIS or PIS, but it seems extremely weird that Zoro would be holding himself back by opting not to use Haki when fighting against the Emperors.

 

[KingTempest]

By the way; I thought that characters could still use invisible Haki even if they don't apply the visible hardening?

How are we to know that every feat without the visible hardening is done for sure without Haki? Maybe it is just explained by CIS or PIS, but it seems extremely weird that Zoro would be holding himself back by opting not to use Haki when fighting against the Emperors.

Law can use Koka and didn't on the emperors
The scabbards can all use Koka and didn't on the emperors until the unified hit
Yamato can use Koka, and didn't.
Big Mom can use Koka, and didn't.

 

[Damage3245]

Law can use Koka and didn't on the emperors
The scabbards can all use Koka and didn't on the emperors until the unified hit
Yamato can use Koka, and didn't.
Big Mom can use Koka, and didn't.

So doesn't it seem possible that they were using non-Koka Haki?

 

[KingTempest]

So doesn't it seem possible that they were using non-Koka Haki?

It does. Also seems possible they weren't using it at all. Regardless there wouldn't be much of a difference

 

[SnookB]

Isn't invisible haki mentioned everytime we (don't) see it though? (in mf it is, and with the kuja arrows). If it was invisible buso we'd likely get hinted at it since it's consistently been that way.

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

I don't think it's reasonable to assume that Oda would mention it every single time. It was mentioned a lot early on because there was no real way to discern its use visually at the time, and because it was a pretty new concept.

 

[SnookB]

wait am i reading this wrong, is it saying luffys skin turns completely white aswell? or is it talking about the retconned version...

Apparently not- this is official colors

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

The translation is probably talking about the white clothing when it said body... The second version of the translation said body but the first one didn't, the first one is more accurately translated... Don't ask me why... I just included the second version because it kinda made sense

MAN!!!!! Basically the second version is the version that is in order of the I think opposite way of the original since that how it took out the text, left to right... But then I forgot how to read Japanese texts so I included both versions... And I think the first translation is the right way to translate... MAN!!! I HATE EXPLAINING

Monkey.

予測不能!自由で変則的な“ギア5„アクション集!!

ルフィ自身が「おれのやりたかった事全部できる」と言った“ギア5"は、常識を超えた自由なアクションが特徴的。攻撃を受けた際のリアクションすら変化するのだ。

→カイドウに挑むルフィの表情と後ろ姿だが、そこには「まっ白」という、色についてのメモも。能力発動と共に白くなるのは決まっていた!?

Unpredictable! Free and Unconventional "Gear 5" Action Collection!

Luffy himself said, "I can do everything I wanted to do," and "Gear 5" is characterized by free actions that transcend common sense. Even his reactions to attacks change.

→Luffy's expression and back view as he challenges Kaidou, and there is also a note about the color, "pure white. It was decided that he would turn white when he activated his ability!

You know what... I'll just strike over the second version

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

OHHHHHHHHHHHH BACKVIEW IS CORRECT FROM THE IMAGE BESIDES THE TEXT HOLY SHIT!!! NOW I UNDERSTAND

 

[WrongIdea21]

So Luffy really being H-1A? Transcendence of Logic and Ominpotence.

 

[KobsterHope07]

Road to laugh tale 4 states that Gear 5th Luffy gets stronger the more he laughs.

So Empowerment for G5 Luffy

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Durability

Durability

Each of the scabbards did like twice that much damage to Kaido in their base forms, and Zoro needed Killer's help just to do that.

Who was already weakened by Kid's Punk Gibson to a notable extent.

Ok, so he has 6-A dura, I'm not doubting that, but without Haoshoku Infusion or Enma (say it was knocked into the sea or something), he's Zoan Tobiroppo tier in regards to AP.

Get ignored, scrub

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

So Luffy really being H-1A? Transcendence of Logic and Ominpotence.

I think it's talking ability wise where logic won't matter because of how free luffy feels/is... Like Reality Warping, Physics Manipulation or Law Manipulation


Also if you transcend that, is that 1-A? I don't think so...

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

All the blunt gear 5 luffy texts are translated... Need to also translate the non blunt text because for example there is these statement I found from the 4th image and stuff

Nika, god of the sun, everyone used to know and know himself as the one who made you smile. Liberation with its power

awakening itself.

Kankoma Souzou Kenkyoku (the power to create a new world)

power description zion planning

 

[Magmag]

Edit: i really hope oda doesn't throw bombs of information at us revealing so many things in just a short time span, im putting my trust in him.

 

[SnookB]

Edit: i really hope oda doesn't throw bombs of information at us revealing so many things in just a short time span, im putting my trust in him.

I was just about to post that kek
Oda confirms NO MORE SECRETS. Hooboy- the Final Saga's gonna be good

 

[Fireld]

Does this mean we're finally gonna get answers about those shaodws in the Florian Triangle, Crocodile's secret, the giant egg in Roger's ship, Uranus, Rocks and a lot more just in the final saga? Boy, sb get the popcorn & cola!

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

 

[Eseseso]

Get ignored, scrub

Not my fault some people can't handle the truth.