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One Piece General Discussion: Elbaph

Yeah that's weird- I never noticed, but he does physically grab the flame as a reflex it seems. If it wasn't NPI his hand would just go through it.
He did say his ability effects EVERYTHING. Even "lightning and fire" according to himself. Devil fruits aren't a thing he's exclusive to, they just fall under the category of things he can negate.
Blackbeard's ability to "absorb" things isn't limited to DFs only but the fandom kinda stuck around that idea for some reason.
 
Someone CRT this cuz I suck, but-next to power nullification, he should have NPI via forcibly turning elementals into their "true bodies"
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And it isn't limited to "devil fruit users" either. Devil fruits are just an "other" thing his ability can null.
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He even mentions "fire or lightning" seperate of devil fruits while talking about other things his ability can work on. This means he does have NPI when it comes to what his darkness can succ, since he includes things that aren't even tangible like fire/lightning or even matter like light, which is energy. (That explains why he can just GRAB fire)

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Someone CRT this cuz I suck, but-next to power nullification, he should have NPI via forcibly turning elementals into their "true bodies"
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And it isn't limited to "devil fruit users" either. Devil fruits are just an "other" thing his ability can null.
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In both of those he is literally talking about devil fruits
He even mentions "fire or lightning" seperate of devil fruits while talking about other things his ability can work on. This means he does have NPI when it comes to what his darkness can succ, since he includes things that aren't even tangible like fire/lightning or even matter like light, which is energy. (That explains why he can just GRAB fire)

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Yeah this seems to be NPI based on the second part
 
And?

Devil fruit still are based of off things in the one piece world... Devil fruits aren't magic or something...
They are pretty damn close to it
Also no he used the argument that that showed Blackbeard could null non devil fruit stuff but the only thing it showed was that he could null devil fruits
 
In both of those he is literally talking about devil fruits
And it isn't limited to "devil fruit users" either. Devil fruits are just an "other" thing his ability can null.
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Yes, because they fall under the effect as well. Not because his ability ONLY works on devil fruits. When he says "fire, lightning" and "even light", as well as "bullets, punches, pain" he isn't talking about devil fruits. He only says LATER that the OTHER THING his darkness can absorb is devil fruits.
He can effect natural energies, and devil fruit abilities.
 
Yes, because they fall under the effect as well. Not because his ability ONLY works on devil fruits. When he says "fire, lightning" and "even light", as well as "bullets, punches, pain" he isn't talking about devil fruits. He only says LATER that the OTHER THING his darkness can absorb is devil fruits.
He can effect natural energies, and devil fruit abilities.
The First two scans based on the order you put them in is him talking about the three types of devil fruits then saying he can null them. Then saying he can null devil fruits
 
He isn’t nulling the DF when he’s grabbing it. That’s blatant NPI. Idk how y’all get “power nullification” from HOLDING A FLAME
 
The First two scans based on the order you put them in is him talking about the three types of devil fruits then saying he can null them. Then saying he can null devil fruits
He says he can null lightning, fire and light BEFORE he even mentions devil fruits. That's when "the other thing" statement comes in
 
He says he can null lightning, fire and light BEFORE he even mentions devil fruits. That's when "the other thing" statement comes in
You aren't even reading the order you posted the statements in. Maybe you should at least try to show them in order if you want people to actually agree with what you are saying
 
Someone CRT this cuz I suck, but-next to power nullification, he should have NPI via forcibly turning elementals into their "true bodies"
Screenshot_27.jpg


And it isn't limited to "devil fruit users" either. Devil fruits are just an "other" thing his ability can null.
Screenshot_26.jpg

He even mentions "fire or lightning" seperate of devil fruits while talking about other things his ability can work on. This means he does have NPI when it comes to what his darkness can succ, since he includes things that aren't even tangible like fire/lightning or even matter like light, which is energy. (That explains why he can just GRAB fire)

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Wow, really good find. I never noticed that before.
 
I want to ask, are the monsters in Amazon Lily as strong as Doffy or even stronger? Until Luffy needs a king kong weapon to defeat them.
 
I want to ask, are the monsters in Amazon Lily as strong as Doffy or even stronger? Until Luffy needs a king kong weapon to defeat them.
Yes. There were some. Luffy specifically developed the KKG because the Kong Gun wasn’t enough, so much so that he literally went back to Rayleigh for advice because of Kong Gun’s ineffectiveness. We saw how much damage a single Kong Gun did to Doffy.
 
Yes. There were some. Luffy specifically developed the KKG because the Kong Gun wasn’t enough, so much so that he literally went back to Rayleigh for advice because of Kong Gun’s ineffectiveness. We saw how much damage a single Kong Gun did to Doffy.
Monsters in amazon lilly casually island level
 
In all fairness that Luffy was just starting to get the hang of Gear 4 too. Maybe his KG/KKG were weaker than they are in Dressrosa? But if not then Ruskaina's beasts are definitely built different
 
Also, if Post-Udon Luffy had fought Queen (say, Queen came back to the prison right as Luffy was leaving), who'd have won?
 
You know... We always calc the Kaishin based on the tsunamis it caused, but- can the earthquake magnitude be found by taking into account the fact that it caused marineford's land/wall to warp to shit and out of shape and tilt nearly twice its size in seconds?

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inb4 someone says "it's just art style"
 
You know... We always calc the Kaishin based on the tsunamis it caused, but- can the earthquake magnitude be found by taking into account the fact that it caused marineford's land/wall to warp to shit and out of shape and tilt nearly twice its size in seconds?

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inb4 someone says "it's just art style"
That would probably be far far weaker then anything that the Tsunami gives
 
That would probably be far far weaker then anything that the Tsunami gives
I doubt it. The highest magnitude earthquakes wouldn't do that to land, so it might just be more canonical evidence that the OP earth can handle higher magnitudes than anything.
Even if it is weaker it's worth checking tbh
 
I doubt it. The highest magnitude earthquakes wouldn't do that to land, so it might just be more canonical evidence that the OP earth can handle higher magnitudes than anything.
Even if it is weaker it's worth checking tbh
the highest magnitude earthquake would most definitely do that to land
maybe it wouldn’t look the exact same but it would be at least comparable in terms of damage
 
I doubt it. The highest magnitude earthquakes wouldn't do that to land, so it might just be more canonical evidence that the OP earth can handle higher magnitudes than anything.
Even if it is weaker it's worth checking tbh
earth op is able to withstand it because it has haki. maybe
 
the highest magnitude earthquake would most definitely do that to land
maybe it wouldn’t look the exact same but it would be at least comparable in terms of damage
No real earthquake is doing that to land. Not that fast, not to the point of warping and tilting it upwards to nearly twice its size in moments- that is far from what any real life earthquake would do.
 
No real earthquake is doing that to land. Not that fast, not to the point of warping and tilting it upwards to nearly twice its size in moments- that is far from what any real life earthquake would do.
The strongest possible earthquake would do comparable stuff
Yes it wouldn’t do that as if a real life one was powerful enough it would have simply broken off before it tilted nearly that far up
 
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