Once Upon A Time Upgrade

[The_Archdemon]

Well, I think this verse is really depowered here. You see, in the series, there are many feats of destruction/creation (most of them envolving reality warping).

As an example: Aladdin was able of creating a whole alternative dimension with his genie powers (yes, it was the Evil Queen's wish, but that's irrelevant) and put Emma inside it.

Once Upon a Time deserve a good revison, at least in my opnion

 

[Cropfist]

We need to know how big this realm is.

 

[The_Archdemon]

What are you talking about, exactly?

 

[Cropfist]

What is the dimension's size?

 

[The_Archdemon]

It's exactly equal to the original one, The Enchanted Forest

 

[The_Archdemon]

I think it's Planet Level +, 'cause there's no proof that the dimension is bigger than the original world

 

[The_Archdemon]

Up

 

[The_Archdemon]

What is the dimension's size?

And that's not the only feat. There are others, many others... don't know if the ADMs of this verse have the information or just ignore it

 

[Amelia_Lonelyheart]

Well, Planet level+ would imply the planet is only slightly smaller than Neptune. Does the dimension contain a sun in the background?

 

[The_Archdemon]

Yes. It has exactly the same size of original the Enchanted Forest (although it's full size is unknown, but there's a huge forest, said to have "infinite area" and the alternative dimension also have this forest (actually I don't think it would change the feat somehow).

 

[Antvasima]

Well, I suppose that an upgrade might be in order for genies and preparation feats, but we need you to be more thorough in listing them.

 

[The_Archdemon]

Okay, I can make a list of some important feats.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Thanks.

 

[The_Archdemon]

These are feats I think shouldn't be ignored:

1) Don't know exactly how to avaliate this feat, but Country level (6-B) is quite enough to me.

There, Ingrid freezes all of Arendelle (there is the sca, part of the episode script, proving that all the realm was affected by Ingrid's spell). There is a map of the region, wich is a really big one in my opinion.

2) This one I think that is Small Building (9-A) level

Jafar was able to reduce a tall and fat human to ashes with a single gesture and said it was "pathetic".

3) Likely City level (7-B) feat

Jafar (again) said that would "wipe Agabah off this earth", and actually did so. The own Jafar said that Agrabah wasn't truly destroyed, but the feat still valid, on my view.

4) At least Building level + (8-C)

By simply crying, Elsa created a huge snow monster, that was quite bigger than most of Storybrooke's buildings.

5) Directly connected to the feat above, guess it's Building level (8-C)

Regina destroyed the monster of the previous feat with a single wave of her hand

6) Unknown (I would accept help :v)

Elsa also created a giant ice wall around all Storybrooke and laterly destroyed it with ease.

7) At least Building level (8-C)

Rumplestiltskin killed all the ogres in the war and they had at least the same height of Elsa's snow monster.

8) Town level (7-C)

This feat is used in Maleficent's page but, you see, I think it's wrong. It should be at least Town level 'cause the feat it's quite similar to Maleficent's (Disney) one. Rumplestiltskin said it was a lush forest that Maleficent destroyed with her dragon fire. I think a revision would be good here.

9) Unknow

Hades created the Underworld and made it look like Storybrooke. The full area of this dimension is unknown, but this is the place where the souls go when they have unfinished business. It implies that the place need to have a great range (and would possibly be infinite, 'cause it's quite questionable to say that the Underworld have a limited number of vacancy).

10) Likely Island level (6-C)

Peter Pan had absolute control over all Neverland, and it's said to be able to get anything he wants by simply thinking while inside of Neverland.

11) Likely Planet level + (5-B), probably higher

Aladdin was able of creating a whole alternative dimension with his genie powers (yes, it was the Evil Queen's wish, but that's irrelevant) and put Emma inside it. This dimension has exactly the same range of the original Enchanted Forest, wich has an "infinite forest" inside of it.

12) I don't really know what to think about this one. I would say Large Planet level, probably Multi-Planet (5-A)

The Black Fairy's power can turn Emma's faith into a "reality bomb", that would destroy all the reality of the magical realms of the Book of Histories.

13) Again, a complicated feat. Would say at least Large Planet level, probably Multi-Planet (5-A) again

Rumplestiltskin was likely the only one capable of killing the Black Fairy; breaking her curse and stopping the "multi-planetary" destruction caused by her power and, thanks to him all the realms previously destroyed were reconstructed.

There are also many other feats that I dot remember right now, but I think these are enough to make a good revison. Some of these feats can be used as scalling for many other characters, via PS and they're quite important.

There are some feats about velcity too, but I don't have them now.

 

[Antvasima]

Hmm. I would prefer calculations for some of the feats, but will highlight this thread for more input.

 

[The_Archdemon]

Yes, I also think calculations would be needed in some feats (likes Ingrid's freezing spell).

I just wanted to have the attention of yours.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. No problem.

However, I think that Agrabah only qualifies as a small town by modern standards, and immersing a small country in ice should not be remotely comparable to blowing up a rather large country.

 

[The_Archdemon]

Always considerated Agrabah as a very big city... but okay :v

And think Ingrid's feat is rather impressive, 'cause she froze all of Arendelle and the realm's map shows that it is quite a big realm.

But we need a calculation.

 

[Antvasima]

Yes, we do.

 

[The_Archdemon]

I'll look after someone that know how to calc something like this :V

 

[Antvasima]

Well, you can ask here if you wish:

https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/781841

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

I also reccal Poseidon having feats of tidal waves / earthquakes.

 

[Meosos]

The energy to cremate a human body would be 100 MJ. So 9-A for this feat.

 

[ΚΟΜΙΞ]

Also Rumple now has the powers of all Dark Ones making him a Super Dark One of sort.

 

[Antvasima]

Yes, but we do not know the upper limits of his abilities.

 

[The_Archdemon]

Rumple is said to be the most powerful character in the whole series :v

 

[The_Archdemon]

Even the own Hades respected (and somehow feared) Rumplestiltskins' power

 

[Antvasima]

Well, the Black Fairy could probably have put up a good fight against him with her wand.

 

[The_Archdemon]

Yes, probably. Rumplestiltskin is the only one said to have the capacity to really kill the Black Fairy, but the fight would be rather impressive. Although it's unquestionable that she would definitely lose.

After all, she also feared Rumple's power somehow and when he threatened killing her, the Black Fairy seemed to be really "scared". There is also the fact that she tried to rip out his memories (what was useless, again) in fear that he might turn against her with Belle's position revealed (what actually happened).

And there is also the irrefutable point: Rumplestiltskin killed the Black Fairy.

So I think they would be comparable, and the victory of a possible fight would stay for Rumple.

 

[The_Archdemon]

Anyway, that's not impotant (now). I'll try to calc Ingrid's feat, but what about the others?

 

[The_Archdemon]

I also reccal Poseidon having feats of tidal waves / earthquakes.

Well, I don't remember these ones, but I know that Ursula took Poseidon's trident and used it to give "incredible power" to herself. She then said that she was even more powerful than her father (Poseidon) and that "the whole sea would be at mercy of her every whim"

 

[Antvasima]

As I mentioned, if you make a post in the thread linked below, listing the relevant feats, with video clips or screen captures of the available information, you might get help from the community:

https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/781841

 

[The_Archdemon]

Yes yes, but first I'll go after the details.

What about the others feats? Aren't they enough for a good revision?

 

[Antvasima]

2) This seems reasonable.

3) This seems like a Town level feat.

4) Building level seems fine here.

5) Building level seems reasonable here as well.

6) Maybe Multi-City Block level?

7) Building level seems reasonable.

8) Unless she destroyed a forest with a single attack, I do not think that this is quantifiable.

9) Small Town level seems reasonable here.

10) Neverland is a comparatively small island. We did not see Pan perform any considerable feats, and even if he was able to destroy the island in one blow, it would likely only be 7-B at best.

11) Planet level seems fine for creating a copy of the Enchanted Forest world.

12) It is probably a 5-A feat, yes, but not really scalable to raw power for any character. It was strictly due to the foretold destiny of the event, and Emma's role as saviour, that the realms of imagination would cease to be if she lost faith.

13) Killing the Black Fairy was only a part of what the prophecy required to save the realms of imagination. It was not an exercise in raw power from Rumplestiltskin that restored them.

 

[The_Archdemon]

I'm not preety sure about 12 and 13, but the rest seems okay for me

 

[Antvasima]

Well, you can still ask in the calculation requests thread, in order to get better estimations of numbers 1 and 6.

 

[The_Archdemon]

I'll do it. But, with what we have here, can we make an upgrade to the pages?

 

[Antvasima]

Yes, I think so. However, you must provide proper explanations within the profiles.

 

[The_Archdemon]

Sorry, I must have misunderstood.

Would you repeat that, please, in order to be more specific?

 

[Antvasima]

I mean that if you upgrade the profiles, you cannot simply write down statistics without explanations, you have to provide proper justifications/explanations within parentheses next to them, just like we do in other profiles.