Om (Siddhartha) Profile Addition | Tier 0

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About it​

Siddhartha is a novel written in 1922 by German writer Harmann Hesse. You can read more about it here.

The thing of relevance for this thread, is that the book focuses a lot on the concept of Om, the essence of the Absolute.

In the book, the Om (also called "Atman", "Brahman", "The River", "God", "Perfection", etc) has a bunch of statements that seem to hint at a Tier 0 God/character/force:

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Atman/Om is everywhere. It is within me and within you, and within every creature:​

There is, oh my friend, just one knowledge, this is everywhere, this is Atman, this is within me and within you and within every creature. -- Siddhartha: With the Samanas

It is the essence that remains after all layers and transient states of self are stripped away, devoid of all conceptions. It is the divine core that stands beyond all that can be peeled off through self-denial, the ultimate:​

I searched Atman, I searched Brahman, I was willing to dissect my self and peel off all of its layers, to find the core of all peels in its unknown interior, the Atman, life, the divine part, the ultimate part. But I have lost myself in the process. -- Siddhartha: The Awakening

Siddhartha learned a lot when he was with the Samanas, many ways leading away from the self he learned to go. He went the way of self-denial by means of pain, through voluntarily suffering and overcoming pain, hunger, thirst, tiredness. He went the way of self-denial by means of meditation, through imagining the mind to be void of all conceptions. -- Siddhartha: With the Samanas

After having been standing by the gate of the garden for a long time, Siddhartha realised that his desire was foolish, which had made him go up to this place, that he could not help his son, that he was not allowed to cling him. Deeply, he felt the love for the run-away in his heart, like a wound, and he felt at the same time that this wound had not been given to him in order to turn the knife in it, that it had to become a blossom and had to shine.

That this wound did not blossom yet, did not shine yet, at this hour, made him sad. Instead of the desired goal, which had drawn him here following the runaway son, there was now emptiness. Sadly, he sat down, felt something dying in his heart, experienced emptiness, saw no joy any more, no goal. He sat lost in thought and waited. This he had learned by the river, this one thing: waiting, having patience, listening attentively. And he sat and listened, in the dust of the road, listened to his heart, beating tiredly and sadly, waited for a voice. Many an hour he crouched, listening, saw no images any more, fell into emptiness, let himself fall, without seeing a path. And when he felt the wound burning, he silently spoke the Om, filled himself with Om. -- Siddhartha: The Son

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The holy Om is "that what is perfect" or "the completion":​

Then, out of remote areas of his soul, out of past times of his now weary life, a sound stirred up. It was a word, a syllable, which he, without thinking, with a slurred voice, spoke to himself, the old word which is the beginning and the end of all prayers of the Brahmans, the holy "Om", which roughly means "that what is perfect" or "the completion". -- Siddhartha: By The River

You fill yourself with Om after emptying yourself of all thoughts/desires/goals:​

After having been standing by the gate of the garden for a long time, Siddhartha realised that his desire was foolish, which had made him go up to this place, that he could not help his son, that he was not allowed to cling him. Deeply, he felt the love for the run-away in his heart, like a wound, and he felt at the same time that this wound had not been given to him in order to turn the knife in it, that it had to become a blossom and had to shine.

That this wound did not blossom yet, did not shine yet, at this hour, made him sad. Instead of the desired goal, which had drawn him here following the runaway son, there was now emptiness. Sadly, he sat down, felt something dying in his heart, experienced emptiness, saw no joy any more, no goal. He sat lost in thought and waited. This he had learned by the river, this one thing: waiting, having patience, listening attentively. And he sat and listened, in the dust of the road, listened to his heart, beating tiredly and sadly, waited for a voice. Many an hour he crouched, listening, saw no images any more, fell into emptiness, let himself fall, without seeing a path. And when he felt the wound burning, he silently spoke the Om, filled himself with Om. -- Siddhartha: The Son

It is nameless:​

Quietly, he spoke the word Om to himself, speaking which he had fallen asleep, and it seemed to him as if his entire long sleep had been nothing but a long meditative recitation of Om, a thinking of Om, a submergence and complete entering into Om, into the nameless, the perfected. -- Siddhartha: By The River

Om is Oneness and eternal perfection:​

"You haven't slept," he said. "No, Vasudeva. I sat here, I was listening to the river. A lot it has told me, deeply it has filled me with the healing thought, with the thought of oneness." -- Siddhartha: The Ferryman

Slowly blossomed, slowly ripened in Siddhartha the realisation, the knowledge, what wisdom actually was, what the goal of his long search was. It was nothing but a readiness of the soul, an ability, a secret art, to think every moment, while living his life, the thought of oneness, to be able to feel and inhale the oneness. Slowly this blossomed in him, was shining back at him from Vasudeva's old, childlike face: harmony, knowledge of the eternal perfection of the world, smiling, oneness. -- Siddhartha: OM

Everything is a whole, a oneness, which is Om, the perfection:​

And everything together, all voices, all goals, all yearning, all suffering, all pleasure, all that was good and evil, all of this together was the world. All of it together was the flow of events, was the music of life. And when Siddhartha was listening attentively to this river, this song of a thousand voices, when he neither listened to the suffering nor the laughter, when he did not tie his soul to any particular voice and submerged his self into it, but when he heard them all, perceived the whole, the oneness, then the great song of the thousand voices consisted of a single word, which was Om: the perfection. -- Siddhartha: OM

Non-eternal things change, but Om is eternal:​

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The wheel of physical manifestations is turning quickly, Govinda. Where is Siddhartha the Brahman? Where is Siddhartha the Samana? Where is Siddhartha the rich man? Non-eternal things change quickly, Govinda, you know it. -- Siddhartha: By The River

As a youth, I had only to do with asceticism, with thinking and meditation, was searching for Brahman, worshipped the eternal in the Atman. -- Siddhartha: By The River

Slowly this blossomed in him, was shining back at him from Vasudeva's old, childlike face: harmony, knowledge of the eternal perfection of the world, smiling, oneness. -- Siddhartha: OM

Om is everywhere at once, at the source and at the mouth, at the waterfall, at the ferry, at the rapids, in the sea, in the mountains, everywhere at once. Nothing was, nothing will be; everything is, everything has existence and is ever-present:​

"Did you," so he asked him at one time, "did you too learn that secret from the river: that there is no time?" Vasudeva's face was filled with a bright smile. "Yes, Siddhartha," he spoke. "It is this what you mean, isn't it: that the river is everywhere at once, at the source and at the mouth, at the waterfall, at the ferry, at the rapids, in the sea, in the mountains, everywhere at once, and that there is only the present time for it, not the shadow of the past, not the shadow of the future?"

"This it is," said Siddhartha. "And when I had learned it, I looked at my life, and it was also a river, and the boy Siddhartha was only separated from the man Siddhartha and from the old man Siddhartha by a shadow, not by something real. Also, Siddhartha's previous births were no past, and his death and his return to Brahma was no future. Nothing was, nothing will be; everything is, everything has existence and is present. -- Siddhartha: The Ferryman

All things are already realized within Om, with the past, present, and future being meaningless to it. In addition, it has no divisions, considering the gap between those as a "deception" or "not real":​

"But the world itself, what exists around us and inside of us, is never one-sided. A person or an act is never entirely Sansara or entirely Nirvana, a person is never entirely holy or entirely sinful. It does really seem like this, because we are subject to deception, as if time was something real. Time is not real, Govinda, I have experienced this often and often again. And if time is not real, then the gap which seems to be between the world and the eternity, between suffering and blissfulness, between evil and good, is also a deception."

"How come?" asked Govinda timidly.

"Listen well, my dear, listen well! The sinner, which I am and which you are, is a sinner, but in times to come he will be Brahma again, he will reach the Nirvana, will be Buddha--and now see: these "times to come" are a deception, are only a parable! The sinner is not on his way to become a Buddha, he is not in the process of developing, though our capacity for thinking does not know how else to picture these things. No, within the sinner is now and today already the future Buddha, his future is already all there, you have to worship in him, in you, in everyone the Buddha which is coming into being, the possible, the hidden Buddha. The world, my friend Govinda, is not imperfect, or on a slow path towards perfection: no, it is perfect in every moment, all sin already carries the divine forgiveness in itself, all small children already have the old person in themselves, all infants already have death, all dying people the eternal life. It is not possible for any person to see how far another one has already progressed on his path; in the robber and dice-gambler, the Buddha is waiting; in the Brahman, the robber is waiting. In deep meditation, there is the possibility to put time out of existence, to see all life which was, is, and will be as if it was simultaneous, and there everything is good, everything is perfect, everything is Brahman. -- Siddhartha: Govinda

But today I think: this stone is a stone, it is also animal, it is also god, it is also Buddha, I do not venerate and love it because it could turn into this or that, but rather because it is already and always everything -- Siddhartha: Govinda

It also seems to be "God":​

While he was still speaking, still admitting and confessing, Siddhartha felt more and more that this was no longer Vasudeva, no longer a human being, who was listening to him, that this motionless listener was absorbing his confession into himself like a tree the rain, that this motionless man was the river itself, that he was God himself, that he was the eternal itself. -- Siddhartha: OM

TLDR:​

Om is the perfect and all-encompassing oneness that underlies all existence. It is everywhere, within everything, every being and every creature, everywhere at once. It is the essence that remains even after all layers and transient states of self are stripped away into emptiness, devoid of all conceptions, the divine core that stands beyond all that can be peeled off through denial. Om is nameless and the eternal now/is, not abiding by the notions of "was" or "will be", and representing the eternal perfection of the world. All voices, events, phenomena, suffering, joy, good and evil, etc, are submerged into oneness, which is Om. All things are already realized within Om, disregarding the past, present, and future, and is beyond divisions, considering the gap between those as merely deceptive or unreal.

Overall, it seems to comfortably match the Tier 0 requirements.

Here is how the profile would look like:

Oblivion Of The Endless/om

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The profile would either be named "Om (Siddhartha)" or "God (Siddhartha)", whichever fits better.

Staff Votes:​

Agree: Elizhaa, ActuallySpaceMan, Vietthai, Reiner04

Disagree:

Neutral:

 

[HigashikataJobin]

Seems good.

 

[FriendOfTheTeaParty]

Blatant. I agree

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

Quick question, if you don't mind, but how notable is this novel? Don't want to flood Tier 0 with a bunch of unknowns.

Nvm, checked for myself, all good. I'll take a look at it soon.

 

[Elizhaa]

It looks fine.

 

[Phoenks]

as blatant as it gets, really

 

[Vietthai96]

Disagree cause it is a blatant tier 0

 

[ExcelsisBerny]

Looks good.

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

Yeah, it seems blatant.

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

cause it is a blatant tier 0

This is an agreement, then?

 

[Vietthai96]

This is an agreement, then?

Yeah, joke aside, i agree with the thread

 

[Re5yh]

Looks Good, I agree with addition

 

[Reiner04]

Straight forward, Agree.

 

[IvarUHQ]

I agree also first time I see a tier 0 without complication and clear

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Alright, enough time has passed and there are enough votes, so I'll close and apply this. Thanks for the input, everyone.