Oh yea, Relativistic+ Piccoolo

[Nullflowerblush]

OH. Oh yeah, this has been accepted, yay. With that, anyone who scales to beginning of Z Piccolo is Relativistic+ (0.61c), with characters far superior to him clocking in at "At least Relativistic, possibly FTL", and Goku with Kaio-ken and anyone who scales to him is a definite FTL (1.22-2.44c).

This is a pretty straightforward revision.

If we're allowed to apply multipliers from the back of the manga volumes, Goku's strength and speed increased by tenfold during his Gravity Training, meaning he'd scale to FTL (6.1c). Then with Kaio-ken, he scales to FTL+ (12.2c), and with Kaio-ken x20, he breaches into Massively FTL (122c), but we're probably not.

 

[Rikimarox2]

Pretty straightforward, I agree with this.

 

[KingTempest]

Agreed as well.

Who's gonna scale?

 

[Damage3245]

I commented on the calc itself, but I'll repeat here as it may be quicker: What does the freefall speed of the rock actually have to do with Piccolo's Ki speed?

 

[Nullflowerblush]

The rocks were in the air right before Piccolo fired the beam, and were still in the air after the moon had been destroyed, fully reaching the ground once Piccolo had descended. His blast occurred in the timeframe (2.10 seconds) that it took the rock to fell to the ground.

 

[Damage3245]

I don't see where the rocks are still in the air in those scenes you've linked.

 

[Nullflowerblush]

 

[Damage3245]

I don't see how those are the same rocks as the ones next to Piccolo earlier.

 

[Nullflowerblush]

Yeah, you're right.

However, in regards to the rocks hovering above Piccolo in that shot, they were there in the first panel, but gone in the next panel, so the blast had to have travelled to the moon in the time it took for them to fall, possibly even less, going off of the panel arrangement.

 

[00potato]

They honestly could be since the rocks seem to be above that mountain in the background in the first page and right on it on page 2.

 

[Damage3245]

Or the rocks fell out of frame before Piccolo fired his beam. Since we don't see them land, determining a timeframe for his beam speed from the rocks seems impossible to me.

 

[Nullflowerblush]

So, we'd have to use the anime timeframe, then?

 

[00potato]

Sure.

 

[Nullflowerblush]

I heard that gets 0.84c, but until there's a calc, guess we can close this thread.