Obito vs Yuta

[Arkenis]

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Equal Speed
Post Injury Obito, Shinjuku Yuta

Obito: Foriaa
Yuta: MinatoSparkle, ShionAH, Anonymous_Learner
Yuji comes in if Yuta dies:

 

[Apotheosis69]

So Masked Man has Country level Durability... by surviving Minato's Rasengan...

He also has insane Analytical Prediction and much higher reactions with Sharingan and than higher with Mangekyo Sharingan...

 

[Arkenis]

So Masked Man has Country level Durability... by surviving Minato's Rasengan...

He also has insane Analytical Prediction and much higher reactions with Sharingan and than higher with Mangekyo Sharingan...

You think maybe post injury is more reasonable then?

 

[Apotheosis69]

You think maybe post injury is more reasonable then?

I would say so yeah. And maybe also have Obito Start with his Mangekyo Sharingan active. That way both have equal reactive speed

 

[DavidTPPM]

I would say so yeah. And maybe also have Obito Start with his Mangekyo Sharingan active. That way both have equal reactive speed

I don’t think that's how speed equalization works. Only their combat speed is equalized, their reaction speed boosts are not

 

[Mbpoops]

This might be a time where i say LS diff

 

[Arkenis]

I would say so yeah. And maybe also have Obito Start with his Mangekyo Sharingan active. That way both have equal reactive speed

MS isn't a tier amp

 

[Mbpoops]

Not to mention obito just completely outhaxes + BFR with kamui (if he has it hard to read the profile on mobile)

 

[Arkenis]

Switch to post injury.

 

[MinatoSparkle]

Is this the version that fought the Mist Anbu and just attained Kamui?

 

[Foriaa]

Any reason Obito wouldn't touch warp this dude?

 

[Arkenis]

Is this the version that fought the Mist Anbu and just attained Kamui?

Yeah.

 

[Arkenis]

Any reason Obito wouldn't touch warp this dude?

He never used the warping ability from what I remember. He just unknowingly uses the intang hax, and that only lasts for 5 minutes.

 

[Foriaa]

He never used the warping ability from what I remember. He just unknowingly uses the intang hax, and that only lasts for 5 minutes.

Warp is the intang hax, it's being applied to his body rather than others. He didn't touch warp during this key which is true, was confused since you restricted Kurama which he doesn't get a contract with until the next key

Either way, how does Obito get hit here?

 

[Arkenis]

I'm a little confused, post injury says thats when he uses chains but only shows his fight with Minato, was there some moment he uses them before the Minato fight?

 

[Foriaa]

Should be moved to the next key since that's the Masked Man

 

[Arkenis]

Warp is the intang hax, it's being applied to his body rather than others. He didn't touch warp during this key which is true, was confused since you restricted Kurama which he doesn't get a contract with until the next key

Either way, how does Obito get hit here?

Oh yeah I have to remove the kurama part. In five minutes Obito becomes tangible and maybe Yuta can destroy him before Obito finds a way to kill

 

[Foriaa]

the 5 minute shit is obito holding Kamui for that long, not that once he uses it that there's a 5 minute timer on it. i don't see a scenario where obito would even need kamui here? it seems like yuta has no way to land any shots on him even without it

 

[Arkenis]

the 5 minute shit is obito holding Kamui for that long, not that once he uses it that there's a 5 minute timer on it. i don't see a scenario where obito would even need kamui here? it seems like yuta has no way to land any shots on him without it

So if Obito holds it for that long it goes away and recharges. That could be when Yuta has his chance, there's also the fact Kamui's user can't perform physical attacks or teleport while this ability is active, and must deactivate it to do so. I could be stretching it, but this is Obito's first time using MS, I don't think he's got a good grasp on it and can very easily mess up especially with Yuta being somewhat comparable in skill or greater

 

[Apotheosis69]

Well remember, he naturally used Wood Style: Cutting Sprigs Jutsu incredibly well on the very First try. So he most certainly can naturally use Kamui At least somewhat creatively and efficiently.

 

[Foriaa]

So if Obito holds it for that long it goes away and recharges. That could be when Yuta has his chance, there's also the fact Kamui's user can't perform physical attacks or teleport while this ability is active, and must deactivate it to do so. I could be stretching it, but this is Obito's first time using MS, I don't think he's got a good grasp on it and can very easily mess up especially with Yuta being somewhat comparable in skill or greater

Obito doesn't need to hold it for long, that wincon against him only works if you're covering his surface area for 5 minutes, which Yuta can't do. Obito used Kamui nearly perfectly during the mist fight, the only time it tweaked out was with him tryna grab Rin, but that was more of a symbolic thing.

Obito analytical pred + kamui makes him practically invuln to any attack Yuta dishes out

Voting Obito

 

[Arkenis]

Obito doesn't need to hold it for long, that wincon against him only works if you're covering his surface area for 5 minutes, which Yuta can't do.

Maybe? In domain he certainly can get close to that with sure hits.

Obito used Kamui nearly perfectly during the mist fight, the only time it tweaked out was with him tryna grab Rin, but that was more of a symbolic thing.

I wouldn't say perfect, just simple as in keeping himself intang versus his other uses against significantly more skilled opponents later on.

 

[Robo432343]

Obito can't see Rika

 

[MinatoSparkle]

Think Yuta can pull off a W with some difficulty. Obito doesn't show the ability to warp ppl to box land atp so his greatest wincon in his later keys is unviable. And while he can keep safe from Yuta's attacks pretty well with Kamui, Yuta can attack in unconventional ways that might get Obito like with cursed speech and Dhruv's shikigami constituting inviolable paths (not sure how Jacob's Ladder would interact, but that could help as well). There's also the fact that he'd need to continuously keep Kamui active if Yuta activates DE with the sure hit, and if Yuta keeps that up for 5 minutes, he just wins if he imbues an offensive technique like Shrine or death command CS as the sure hit. And Yuta can afford to make mistakes adjusting to Obito unlike the reverse, since his stats are so much higher, and he has RCT. Voting Yuta.

 

[Foriaa]

Maybe? In domain he certainly can get close to that with sure hits.

Domain for sure would be an issue.

Obito doesn't show the ability to warp ppl to box land atp so his greatest wincon in his later keys is unviable.

There was only one instance of Obito fighting in this key, and sadly he was in a state of rage, so he probably wasn't thinking about using his head like that.

cursed speech

I'm interested in what this does to Obito? I mean, if Yuta says don't move, Kamui can still auto warp body parts.

not sure how Jacob's Ladder would interact, but that could help as well

Not sure how that would hit with his body in Kamui? Also, can't he just like dodge it?

 

[MinatoSparkle]

There was only one instance of Obito fighting in this key, and sadly he was in a state of rage, so he probably wasn't thinking about using his head like that.

Sure ig, although either way I doubt he's gonna be able to do it with the constant pressure from Yuta, Rika, and the cursed technique spam

I'm interested in what this does to Obito? I mean, if Yuta says don't move, Kamui can still auto warp body parts.

He can tell Obito to die

Not sure how that would hit with his body in Kamui?

It probably wouldn't, but since it extinguishes techniques you could maybe say it hitting the area where Obito is would nullify the technique? At the very least, if it does hit, Obito should be prevented from using Kamui. Or any ninjutsu.

Also, can't he just like dodge it?

It has speed of light attack speed atm

 

[Foriaa]

Sure ig, although either way I doubt he's gonna be able to do it with the constant pressure from Yuta, Rika, and the cursed technique spam

Why not? Kamui is something Yuta has to adjust to, I don't think it'll take a long time or anything, but if they start a cqc clash and Yuta doesn't know about Kamui, Obito having the superior reactions + analytical abilities would probably be able to touch Yuta even once.

He can tell Obito to die

This is a solid wincon, however I think the likely hood that Obito gets a touch in before Yuta decides to use that is probably higher.

you could maybe say it hitting the area where Obito is would nullify the technique? At the very least, if it does hit, Obito should be prevented from using Kamui. Or any ninjutsu.

Obito isn't actually there though, so I'm not sure how that would work? I think Obito can just leave it's area of effect.

It has speed of light attack speed atm

Is this something he starts with?

 

[Apotheosis69]

Well Yuta also has over 10.8x in AP/SS and Dura, beyond One-shotting.

 

[Foriaa]

Most def, which is why I think he'd likely resort to a touch warp rather than try to engage with Yuta physically. His sharingan should be able to assess the difference in power between them.

 

[MinatoSparkle]

Why not? Kamui is something Yuta has to adjust to, I don't think it'll take a long time or anything, but if they start a cqc clash and Yuta doesn't know about Kamui, Obito having the superior reactions + analytical abilities would probably be able to touch Yuta even once.

It's plausible, but he'd need to get the timing perfect to touch him and absorb him before Rika can attack and force Obito to phase. Obito's skill with this maneuver is also unquantifiable as he's never done it before.

This is a solid wincon, however I think the likely hood that Obito gets a touch in before Yuta decides to use that is probably higher.

Idk about that considering cursed speech was the first technique he used when he activated 5 minute mode.

Obito isn't actually there though, so I'm not sure how that would work? I think Obito can just leave it's area of effect.

Mayhaps

Is this something he starts with?

Well he imbued it in his domain as the sure hit, although that's because it was a hard counter to Sukuna's reincarnated form.

 

[Foriaa]

It's plausible, but he'd need to get the timing perfect to touch him and absorb him before Rika can attack and force Obito to phase. Obito's skill with this maneuver is also unquantifiable as he's never done it before.

Would something like Kamui's warp speed be scaled off his reactions? if so, he should be able to warp them relatively fast.

Idk about that considering cursed speech was the first technique he used when he activated 5 minute mode.

He's telling her not to move, is there a fight he opens up with by telling them person to die?

Well he imbued it in his domain as the sure hit, although that's because it was a hard counter to Sukuna's reincarnated form.

Assume it does hit Obito, what even happens aside from him losing his jutsu inside of the light? Can he still manipulate chakra? Will his Sharingan be turned off? Having an attack that hits at the speed of light while also being 10x stronger and opening up with Domain makes this match very weird if you agree that Obito skill with touch warp isn't quantifiable in this key.

 

[Arkenis]

He's telling her not to move, is there a fight he opens up with by telling them person to die?

Only to curses and those were like second grades, vastly weaker than him, telling Obito to die will be a harder command as that's how cursed speech works. He'd also have to pull this off when Obito's tangible.

 

[Apotheosis69]

Obito could be weak enough compared to him to where it COULD work.

Though nothing says he has to be tangible, as he can still Hear him

 

[MinatoSparkle]

Would something like Kamui's warp speed be scaled off his reactions? if so, he should be able to warp them relatively fast.

Not really clear, although that would make sense since he was gonna warp Minato before he could activate FTG if he touched him in a later key

He's telling her not to move, is there a fight he opens up with by telling them person to die?

Because he didn't have killing intent; he kills curses with it

Assume it does hit Obito, what even happens aside from him losing his jutsu inside of the light? Can he still manipulate chakra?

Yeah, JL doesn't turn off CE reinforcement

Will his Sharingan be turned off?

Might be since it is a technique

Having an attack that hits at the speed of light while also being 10x stronger and opening up with Domain makes this match very weird if you agree that Obito skill with touch warp isn't quantifiable in this key.

If Obito already has Kamui on then its speed shouldn't be relevant. But yeah I do think Yuta has a pretty overwhelming edge even if Obito has ways to win.

 

[Arkenis]

Obito could be weak enough compared to him to where it COULD work.

Though nothing says he has to be tangible, as he can still Hear him

We've never seen that ngl, the weak curses he used it on would be hundreds of times weaker, compared to just 10x it really shouldn't work. Also idk how that works if he puts his head in the dimension then the sound should just pass right through.

 

[MinatoSparkle]

We've never seen that ngl, the weak curses he used it on would be hundreds of times weaker, compared to just 10x it really shouldn't work. Also idk how that works if he puts his head in the dimension then the sound should just pass right through.

Inumaki killed a curse that was comparable to/stronger than him with cursed speech

His entire body doesn't transport to the Kamui dimension at all times, only the body parts that would be hit by an incoming attack are transported. If Kamui doesn't recognized cursed speech as an attack, then it'd work.

 

[Foriaa]

If Obito already has Kamui on then its speed shouldn't be relevant. But yeah I do think Yuta has a pretty overwhelming edge even if Obito has ways to win.

From what I'v seen from JL, it can easily cover his body's surface area, I think he'd to have it on prior for wtv reason

 

[MinatoSparkle]

From what I'v seen from JL, it can easily cover his body's surface area, I think he'd to have it on prior for wtv reason

Little unsure what you mean?

 

[Foriaa]

You're saying that if Obito already has Kamui on, that he would be somewhat fine. I'm saying that there would need to be a reason for Kamui to be on his entire body rather than just parts for him to not get ****** by JL

 

[Apotheosis69]

Inumaki killed a curse that was comparable to/stronger than him with cursed speech

His entire body doesn't transport to the Kamui dimension at all times, only the body parts that would be hit by an incoming attack are transported. If Kamui doesn't recognized cursed speech as an attack, then it'd work.

Well yes but that was by "Get Crushed"… not just by "Die"