Obito vs. Itachi

[Ricsi-viragosi]

no, genjutsu and ap have nothing to dio with each other

 

[Unforgiven0815]

I'm not just talking about Ap, I mean generally.

Higher Resistance to Genjutsus, Experience, Intelligence, Abilities, etc.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

based on what?

 

[Unforgiven0815]

Itachi being unable to put a perfect Jinchu in a Genjutsu while Obito was able to control a perfect Jinchu, Itachi stating that only someone who is a Uchiha and has a Sharingan can counter Tsukuyomi, etc.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

for the first, that is not resistence, He statesd that they could resist to an extent, not be immune to it.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

in fact, being an uchiha does not give resistance on it own, as shown by izumi. And the translation is wrong, he says people who share hes blood, and looking at the fact that izuna could not resist it I would wager he means actual family

 

[Unforgiven0815]

There are different translations for it, he also stated in one that only the ones with the same blood as him and a sharingan have Resistance to it.

Also, Kishi renewed things during the series.

 

[Unforgiven0815]

in fact, being an uchiha does not give resistance on it own, as shown by izumi. And the translation is wrong, he says people who share hes blood, and looking at the fact that izuna could not resist it I would wager he means actual family

Izumi had no MS.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

nor did sasuke when he broke the genjutsu, unless you have a statement, there is no reason to assume MS gives resistance to genjutsu

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

Itachi being unable to put a perfect Jinchu in a Genjutsu while Obito was able to control a perfect Jinchu, Itachi stating that only someone who is a Uchiha and has a Sharingan can counter Tsukuyomi, etc.

Being able to best him =/= resistance tho.

 

[Unforgiven0815]

Sasuke was probably a exception, we don't know what kind of bs Kishi thought with having his favourite Uchiha pet breaking out of Tsukuyomi.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

him saying sasuke doesent stand a chance does not equate to genjutsu, especialy as he has much more powerful things in his arseanal.

 

[Unforgiven0815]

he says people who share hes blood, and looking at the fact that izuna could not resist it I would wager he means actual family

What's next, Itachi lolhaxes the Ootsutsukis?

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Rinnegan gives immunity to tsukuyomi, so no. But obito is not even comparavle

 

[Unforgiven0815]

What about EMS Madara?

 

[AstralKing7]

Obito takes this

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

Erm, so I'm seeing 2-1 or something in favor of Obito.

 

[ZackMoon1234]

Obito Uchiha FRA


Change the title to "Obito Uchiha vs Itachi Uchiha (3-1-0)" if you'd like

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

Izanami would so work on Obito...

 

[A_Stoned_Orc]

IMO Izanami is the only thing that would work on Obito, unless Itachi managed to use strategy to trick Obito into getting hit by the Totsuka Blade.

I'm gonna say Obito FRA

 

[ShrekAlmighty]

Obito FRA

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

Going with Itachi via Izanami... yes that's all he needs....

also, the fact that it was such "Secret" jutsu and an ASS pull no Jutsu I doubt Obito would know that Itachi had it.

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

Pretty sure Obito would know about Izanami, and he's wary of Itachi so he probably wouldn't leave anything to chance.

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

how would Obito counter Izanami?

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

I don't think he can resist it per se if that's what you mean.

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

I know Obito would be on guard off course but I just don't see him being able to evade Izanami in a way that doesn't sound OOC for him

 

[Omimi]

why no no one talking about susano and Yata Mirror

susano and Yata Mirror +Totsuka Blade + Izanami = itachi win

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

@Shadow

As in? If Obito knows how Izanami works, how would it be out of character to fight in a way that he doesn't get caught? Itachi also likely wouldn't think of using Izanami at first, and it seems to require preparation anyway.

@Omimi

Susanoo, Yata Mirror, and Totsuka Blade are borderline useless against Obito due to the nature of Kamui though.

 

[Omimi]

damn i forgot that obito can spam kamui cuz of hashirama's cells lol

 

[Unforgiven0815]

If Izanami would work on Obito, then Itachi would've already done that in the series.

But he didn't, because it's useless against him and just a asspull attack to beat Kabuto.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Its called PIS son. You cannot claim immunity whitout proof, and he wanted to keep his eyes intact because of sasuke

 

[A_Stoned_Orc]

If Izanami would work on Obito, then Itachi would've already done that in the series.
But he didn't, because it's useless against him and just a asspull attack to beat Kabuto.

Obito feared Itachi, though. I remember there being a line from Tobi/Madara-Obito mentioning that he was glad Itachi was dead, because he was the only one who posed a real threat to him or something like that.

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

I think he said that if Itachi knew all of his secrets, he'd be dead. That's why he's wary of him.

 

[TheFinalOrder]

I'm voting Itachi. Now that you've taken Obito's Rinnegan, there is no way for Obito to get over Edo Tensei.

At Best, Obito has to BFR Itachi.

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

I forgot to change it to alive Itachi, so I just decided to leave it like that. I'll change it if necessary, but why can't Obito BFR him?

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

has to grab Itachi first

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

I mean, I don't see why he can't make contact, but I've changed it.

 

[TheFinalOrder]

I vote Inconclusive then. I believe Obito would beat Itachi, but with Shisui's Eye, idk....It comes down to "When" Itachi will use the Eye.

Aside from that, Itachi can't do anything to Obito. And I really disagree with Obito not being able to break Tsukuyomi.

 

[PaChi2]

Obito fra.

 

[Unforgiven0815]

has to grab Itachi first

No.