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Is completely laughing off MIH, GER and being able to laugh off every single Stand featured in the novel via word of Funny enough? As for the dupes, Kars can counter with his own dupes, Kars can physically touch souls and the like if that matters at all and through powerscaling can survive as a disembodied ghost considering Jorge, a normal human could.
 
Mephisto let Zegion and by extension Rimul to ignore attack if its not physical in nature. Kars using his stands against Rimul won't affect him. And someone's weaker than Rimul can ignore pretty much almost everything in the verse and Rimul himself can pretty much ignore everything in his verse, including the state of space-time and the state of nonexistance. Pretty much every single thing Kars can do, Rimul ignore. What Kars can do, Rimul can do it (arguably better). And Ciel can also prevent someone from copying Rimul's power so that pretty much give Kars' everything the middle finger
 
And what's stopping Kars from just adapting, he's adapted to plenty of things before in a high end scale, that's literally his power. Of course it's a NLF but considering it extends to things 2-C in nature and aparently GER cant do anything to him, it should apply here. And how does Ciel stop that, if Kars understands it he should be able to replicate it through his own knowledge and power, he replicated stands and a power unique to the novel, Bounds, just by knowing they exist.
 
Because its actually Rimul's schtick to counter someone who can do "lol i adapt to your attack ny seeing it". Plus, Rimul have Susano'o which is already explained of what it can do and Mephisto works based on its user's imagination. If Rimul thinks he cannot counter his power, Kars can't adapt to Rimul's power. Doesn't get explained in detail of how Ciel prevent that, she just did. But she's capable of saying "**** you and your rules" to the System of the World.

System of the World is the force that control the verse and all its component. Starting from laws of physics, concept, living thing, fate, etc. If it says you need to die, you die. If it wants you to not have a power, you dont have that power. If it want you to have power, you have power. Everything in the verse can't disobey it, even its own creator, Veldanavar which is also 2-C. And then Ciel just goes and told it to **** off since she doesn't like The System of the World interfering with Rimul and her plan.

TSSDK also have a character than can perfectly copy someone's else power after seeing/understanding it once. And both of them cannot replicate Rimul's power. And both of them also have replicated tier 2-C power before and yet they still can't replicate Rimul's power

So yes. Rimul wins
 
And eos rimuru has origin magic which is>all the other reality warping nonsense in the series, also has resistance to all the abilities in the series since origin magic>everything else, as lower abilities can't work on those with higher abilities in this series, so reality warping, fate manipulation, causality manipulation, existence erasure etc etc all useless on eos rimuru not to mention he has time paradox immunity or acausality , either one and can't die unless you kill him the past and future at the same time...

That's not the rimuru here though, that rimuru can create universes and has attacks that can go beyond space-time, willl add that key when we get the rest of the story translated, but yea rimuru is ridiculous.
 
I know, i think I read something about him being able to create around 1,000 universes (or was it 10,000?) which number should still be increasing, as he only had his Turn null for around a month or 2 xD
 
Basically he can create universes 10,000 times before he can't anymore, veldanavar apparently could only do it once and then lost the power to do so again but rimuru can do it 10,000 times before he can't do it anymore.
 
The wording implies that Rimul won't have any problem regarding Turn Null as he has an infinite sized imaginary space as stomach/storage system.

So he should stay fine even after creating 10.000 worlds

At least according to Ciel
 
Would changing to first key Rimuru make it any fairer?
 
What abilities does first key Rimuru have?
 
The only thing the first key of rimuru has in the way of hax is soul manipulation where he first needs his opponents to beg for their life, after which he can reap their souls, and another hax which seals them in a barrier that prevents heat from leaking out, and burns his targets from the inside out, oh and i forgot he has decay which decomposes whatever he touches, there is also his regen negation.
 
Think we have already said what needs to be said already, rimuru reality warps + fate warps kars, or turns the illusion of his death into a reality, negates all kars attacks that aren't purely physical with his ability to turn reality into illusions, or rimuru can even just erase kars from existence or just make him die with his death manipulation, rimuru has so many options.

On the other hand kars has no way of killing rimuru cause not only will he need to kill his soul to kill him, he has to get through soul manipulation resistance, probability manipulation and precognition first.

The only real arguement for kars that has been made here is that he can copy rimuru's abilities which as Fab already pointed out above, isn't gonna be possible.

Rimuru wins easily.
 
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