Nothingness

[Onel]

Would existing/residing in nothingness alone and having control over it (being able to manipulate it), scale a character anywhere?

 

[Roun12]

That would only get you Void Manipulation without any further context.

 

[Onel]

That would only get you Void Manipulation without any further context.

Oh, so residing in one alone doesn’t scale you anywhere?

 

[Bernkastelll]

Oh, so residing in one alone doesn’t scale you anywhere?

It doesnt scale, yeah

 

[Onel]

It doesnt scale, yeah

I’m pretty sure that residing in nothingness is independence. And I thought independence scale at outer, high outer or boundless. Guess I was wrong.

 

[MeliezDonos]

I’m pretty sure that residing in nothingness is independence. And I thought independence scale at outer, high outer or boundless. Guess I was wrong.

Depends on context, residing in Nothingness without any context about transcend Infinite Dimension it just scale to Void Manip and resist to void manip except the verse is stated the void transcend Infinite Dimensional hierarchies it will be low1A I thought.

After All tier 1 is about dimensions and and has nothing to do with nothingness

 

[Onel]

Depends on context, residing in Nothingness without any context about transcend Infinite Dimension it just scale to Void Manip and resist to void manip except the verse is stated the void transcend Infinite Dimensional hierarchies it will be low1A I thought.

After All tier 1 is about dimensions and and has nothing to do with nothingness

I’ve seen character profiles and some get to tier 1-A, high 1-A and boundless without even any hierarchies. I don’t really understand some of them at all. I thought the only way to get to those tiers were through hierarchies, but some character profiles that are in those 3 tiers are on that level without even transcending hierarchies. It’s weird tbh.

 

[Rez]

I’ve seen character profiles and some get to tier 1-A, high 1-A and boundless without even any hierarchies. I don’t really understand some of them at all. I thought the only way to get to those tiers were through hierarchies, but some character profiles that are in those 3 tiers are on that level without even transcending hierarchies. It’s weird tbh.

Can you name any of those profiles?

 

[Onel]

Can you name any of those profiles?

I guess uhhh, azathoth 1-A explaintion. I don’t know about his tier 0 explanation since I don’t fully understand it but his 1-A explaination is a good example of what I mean.

 

[Rez]

I guess uhhh, azathoth 1-A explaintion. I don’t know about his tier 0 explanation since I don’t fully understand it but his 1-A explaination is a good example of what I mean.

It isn't just a void and azathoth is also above all of the ultimate gods
Here is an thread explaining the cuthulu mythos cosmology

Cthulhu Mythos Explanation Page

This explanation page for the Cthulhu Mythos analyzes and ranks its cosmology according to this wiki's Tiering System. The canon of Howard Philips Lovecraft and the Lovecraft Circle is one of the earliest examples of a fictional setting with a particularly intricate and powerful cosmology. This...

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[Onel]

It isn't just a void and it is also above all of the ultimate gods
Here is an thread explaining the cuthulu mythos cosmology

Cthulhu Mythos Explanation Page

This explanation page for the Cthulhu Mythos analyzes and ranks its cosmology according to this wiki's Tiering System. The canon of Howard Philips Lovecraft and the Lovecraft Circle is one of the earliest examples of a fictional setting with a particularly intricate and powerful cosmology. This...

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Ohhh ok

 

[Onel]

It isn't just a void and azathoth is also above all of the ultimate gods
Here is an thread explaining the cuthulu mythos cosmology

Cthulhu Mythos Explanation Page

This explanation page for the Cthulhu Mythos analyzes and ranks its cosmology according to this wiki's Tiering System. The canon of Howard Philips Lovecraft and the Lovecraft Circle is one of the earliest examples of a fictional setting with a particularly intricate and powerful cosmology. This...

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How about the creators (umineko) profile? Where does it involve a high outer hierarchy that’s being transcended by the creator?

 

[Sus]

Would existing/residing in nothingness alone and having control over it (being able to manipulate it), scale a character anywhere?

No

 

[Onel]

btw, if there was something that had an infinite amount of layers and each layer was infinite in size, what level of hierarchy would that be?

 

[Sus]

btw, if there was something that had an infinite amount of layers and each layer was infinite in size, what level of hierarchy would that be?

nothing without further context

 

[Rez]

btw, if there was something that had an infinite amount of layers and each layer was infinite in size, what level of hierarchy would that be?

1-A if each layer is transcendent to another

 

[Sus]

1-A if each layer is transcendent to another

how is it 1A? if each layer transcends the other that's high 1B

 

[Rez]

how is it 1A? if each layer transcends the other that's high 1B

If each layer is infinitely transcendent of another than it's 1-A I think but I am probably wrong so I think you are right

 

[Sus]

How about the creators (umineko) profile? Where does it involve a high outer hierarchy that’s being transcended by the creator?

he scales above Feathrine who is transcendent to 2-3 infinitly layered realms each layer sees the below as fiction

 

[Sus]

1-A if each layer is transcendent to another

this is only high 1B

 

[Onel]

he scales above Feathrine who is transcendent to 2-3 infinitly layered realms each layer sees the below as fiction

Featherine is stated to be High 1-A on her profile, the creator transcending her would cause it to be the same tier as her. Like you said, it needs to transcend a high outer hierarchy

 

[Sus]

Featherine is stated to be High 1-A on her profile, the creator transcending her would cause it to be the same tier as her. Like you said, it needs to transcend a high outer hierarchy

he resides in a realm Called the realm of god iirc and it views Feathrines realm as fiction

 

[Onel]

he resides in a realm Called the realm of god iirc and it views Feathrines realm as fiction

But featherine realm is said to be High 1-A, that should put him at best, 1 further level into the tier. Not tier 0

 

[Sus]

But featherine realm is said to be High 1-A, that should put him at best, 1 further level into the tier. Not tier 0

i said he resides in an independent layered realm

 

[Onel]

i said he resides in an independent layered realm

I don’t really understand that fully but ok. Btw, I’m not gonna ask you question on other threads, I’ll use this one or we can talk private. Discord would be better if you want.

 

[Regidian]

Umineko is getting downgraded so i eman not really need to talk ajout that

 

[Sus]

Umineko is getting downgraded so i eman not really need to talk ajout that

oof

 

[Onel]

you said that the hierarchy would be infinite outer hierarchy, so wouldn’t having the ability of being able to remove and recreate that hierarchy put you above it?

 

[Sus]

I don’t really understand that fully but ok. Btw, I’m not gonna ask you question on other threads, I’ll use this one or we can talk private. Discord would be better if you want.

send ur id

 

[Sus]

you said that the hierarchy would be infinite outer hierarchy, so wouldn’t having the ability of being able to remove and recreate that hierarchy put you above it?

no, destroying a 1A+ structure = 1A+

 

[Onel]

no, destroying a 1A+ structure = 1A+

Would you have to prove that you transcend it as a whole?

 

[Onel]

send ur id

Onel#6064

 

[Sus]

Would you have to prove that you transcend it as a whole?

obviously lol

 

[MeliezDonos]

I’ve seen character profiles and some get to tier 1-A, high 1-A and boundless without even any hierarchies. I don’t really understand some of them at all. I thought the only way to get to those tiers were through hierarchies, but some character profiles that are in those 3 tiers are on that level without even transcending hierarchies. It’s weird tbh.

What the verse? As Far I know the context for have L1A is transcend infinite dimension it will make you aleph1. For the lowest 1A tier need transcend infinite dimension.

 

[MeliezDonos]

Would you have to prove that you transcend it as a whole?

If you can destroy the above infinite dimensions structure so you indirectly surpass it or have an existence equal to it. Because tier 1A is about existence who transcend dimensional concept that means you need to have an existence equivalent to an object for destroy it.

 

[Sus]

i already answered this

 

[Rez]

this is only high 1B

Actually wouldn't an infinite hierarchy with infinite layer with each layer transcending the other by an infinite amount be low 1-A since at that point the hierarchy is uncountably infinite instead of countably infinite

 

[MeliezDonos]

Sorry, my bad

 

[Sus]

Actually wouldn't an infinite hierarchy with infinite layer with each layer transcending the other by an infinite amount be low 1-A since at that point the hierarchy is uncountably infinite instead of countably infinite

no, it would be high 1B unless there's some context to it, like a realm residing inaccessible to it, but still a part of it, that's L1A

 

[Rez]

no, it would be high 1B unless there's some context to it, like a realm residing inaccessible to it, but still a part of it, that's L1A

From tiering system page
Low 1-A | Low Outerverse level: Characters who can universally affect, create and/or destroy structures and expanses of uncountably infinite dimensions