Noelle (with Snowgrave) Vs. GIGA Queen

[ShockingPsychic]

Noelle decides to hit GIGA Queen with all she's got.

Both 8-A, Noelle has Snowgrave. The battlefield is the empty street where GIGA Queen fights Thrash. Both bloodlusted.

Deer:

Computer:

 

[PROPLAYEN]

I'm interested, bump

 

[The_Almighty_Wholesome]

This is a close matchup. Queen could easily one-shot Noelle however if she starts with Snowgrave, she surprisingly has an AP advantage (Noelle’s 785 tons > Queen’s 120 tons) and if that’s the case than I could easily see Noelle freezing Queen. Plus this version of Noelle is far more bold and Queen is likely to hold back against Noelle due to how deeply she actually cares for her. So I might lean on Noelle however I’ll see what else is said.

 

[ShockingPsychic]

Bump

 

[JustANormalLemon]

first, I would put both bloodlusted, Noelle wouldn't use snowgrave without Kris insisting her to use in character and Queen would hold back against Noelle, but puting that aside I'm voting to Noelle by simply using Snowgrave is fastter then whatever giga queen trow at her

 

[ShockingPsychic]

Added bloodlust.

 

[JustANormalLemon]

Added bloodlust.

so... let me undo what I said erlier, what is faster? Giga queen atacks or snow grave?

 

[ShockingPsychic]

Bump

 

[JustANormalLemon]

what is faster? Giga queen atacks or snow grave?

 

[Psychomaster35]

so... let me undo what I said erlier, what is faster? Giga queen atacks or snow grave?

Giga Queen would be able to kick Noelle first and oneshot, plus even if you bloodlust Noelle, she would still have to build up TP to actually use Snowgrave

 

[ShockingPsychic]

Couldn't we start her off with a full TP bar?

 

[Psychomaster35]

You can do that, just give her some preparation and she will have it

 

[Metalballrun]

Voting Queen. I'm not even sure how Snowgrave is supposed to work on Queen.

1. It's Giga Queen, which is quite too large for Snowgrave to work on.
2. Snowgrave's 8-A rating comes from Creation instead of KE, with the yield coming from heat conversion. I have no doubt that even if the ice of Snowgrave itself is somehow successfuly casted on Giga Queen, the latter should be able to break through it.
3. Even if we assume that Snowgrave can be casted to the Queen within Giga Queen, Noelle would need time to accumulate TP to cast it.
4. Even if we assume Noelle have prep and a full TP, the casting of Snowgrave itself takes at least a second before the ice starts forming. I'd say it's safe to assume that Giga Queen would be able to move during that time lag and even during the ice formation, arguably.

The odds are stacked against horny deer.

 

[JustANormalLemon]

Voting Queen. I'm not even sure how Snowgrave is supposed to work on Queen.

1. It's Giga Queen, which is quite too large for Snowgrave to work on.
2. Snowgrave's 8-A rating comes from Creation instead of KE, with the yield coming from heat conversion. I have no doubt that even if the ice of Snowgrave itself is somehow successfuly casted on Giga Queen, the latter should be able to break through it.
3. Even if we assume that Snowgrave can be casted to the Queen within Giga Queen, Noelle would need time to accumulate TP to cast it.
4. Even if we assume Noelle have prep and a full TP, the casting of Snowgrave itself takes at least a second before the ice starts forming. I'd say it's safe to assume that Giga Queen would be able to move during that time lag and even during the ice formation, arguably.

The odds are stacked against horny deer.

In character the queen would hold on against Noelle, but I see what you mean, voting the robot, may be a stomp

 

[ShockingPsychic]

Snowgrave typically doesn't take as long as it did against Berdly, and wouldn't their speed being the same mean their attacks are equal in terms of speed?

 

[JustANormalLemon]

Snowgrave typically doesn't take as long as it did against Berdly, and wouldn't their speed being the same mean their attacks are equal in terms of speed?

start leg would still be a thing, but the speed is equalized?

 

[Deleted member 16409]

Wouldn't Snowgrave just freeze robot legs or just erase Queen?

 

[Deleted member 16409]

Bump, Noelle doesn't need TP for Snowgrave.

 

[JustANormalLemon]

Bump, Noelle doesn't need TP for Snowgrave.

but she need frisk telling her to use

 

[Deleted member 16409]

but she need frisk telling her to use

"Frisk".
Nah, and there's Bloodlusted Noelle, that mean Noelle doesn't need Kris in this one.

 

[JustANormalLemon]

"Frisk".
Nah, and there's Bloodlusted Noelle, that mean Noelle doesn't need Kris in this one.

yes, kris, and she don't know she has that spell

 

[ShockingPsychic]

She knows she has it, she just doesn't want to use it IC.

 

[JustANormalLemon]

She knows she has it, she just doesn't want to use it IC.

hum...

 

[GodlyCharmander]

Voting Queen, she is far more likely to just kick the deer to the curb. Also, REVIVE!!!

 

[Deleted member 16409]

Voting Queen, she is far more likely to just kick the deer to the curb. Also, REVIVE!!!

Queen attacks needs more time unlike Noelle. And Fun Gang already tanked TWO hit, that means that Noelle can at least tank 2 hits and **** queen with Snowgrave.
Btw Queen mentions that Noelle is super strong and can do things what Darkners (including Queen) can't do

 

[GodlyCharmander]

Queen attacks needs more time unlike Noelle. And Fun Gang already tanked TWO hit, that means that Noelle can at least tank 2 hits and **** queen with Snowgrave.
Btw Queen mentions that Noelle is super strong and can do things what Darkners (including Queen) can't do

The AP difference says any attack from the Queen one shots. Case in point.

Queen can literally kick in 2 frames, you're not making any sense here.

 

[Deleted member 16409]

The AP difference says any attack from the Queen one shots. Case in point.

Queen can literally kick in 2 frames, you're not making any sense here.

ok, don't forget that she(Queen) needs 2 seconds to attacks while Snowgrave needs 2 seconds too.
Voting incon

 

[GodlyCharmander]

ok, don't forget that she(Queen) needs 2 seconds to attacks while Snowgrave needs 2 seconds too.
Voting incon

Hmm, fair, they could very well one shot each other simultaneously, lol.


Incon FRA

 

[Deleted member 16409]

Hmm, fair, they could very well one shot each other simultaneously, lol.


Incon FRA

But hey, Queen unlike Noelle... can do simulations and see that she would likely die from Snowgrave. So Queen would escape easily

 

[GodlyCharmander]

But hey, Queen unlike Noelle... can do simulations and see that she would likely die from Snowgrave. So Queen would escape easily

Nah. She doesn't do that in battle, and it takes actual time, so doing so would literally cost her the battle.

 

[Deleted member 16409]

Nah. She doesn't do that in battle, and it takes actual time, so doing so would literally cost her the battle.

In character when Queen sees the character who can beat her or situation when she 1v4 she easily do simulation what takes VERY SHORT time. But remember, Queen can DODGE in battle, and Noelle can fly that still makes... incon.

 

[Deleted member 16409]

Ok, Queen takes no time to load a simulation and instantly finds the way how to solve the problem

 

[GodlyCharmander]

In character when Queen sees the character who can beat her or situation when she 1v4 she easily do simulation what takes VERY SHORT time. But remember, Queen can DODGE in battle, and Noelle can fly that still makes... incon.

She has to stop, say "running simulation for [n event]", and it takes a few lines. Queen cannot simulate Snowgrave, because she has never seen it, first and foremost. Her simulation will tell her she wins.

What kind of clairvoyance is that simulation, my guy?

 

[Deleted member 16409]

She has to stop, say "running simulation for [n event]", and it takes a few lines. Queen cannot simulate Snowgrave, because she has never seen it, first and foremost. Her simulation will tell her she wins.

What kind of clairvoyance is that simulation, my guy?

So no Prepare Knowledge? Ok, sure.
incon