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Ninjago Revisions (mainly minor God tiers additions)
Welp, ladies and gentlemen, here we go! (Credits to @TheOrangeGuy09)
Agree: @TheOrangeGuy09 @Woomica @REX9097 @Planck69 @Propellus (Agrees with everything but no commentd on Cosmology Addition) @DarkDragonMedeus
Disagree:
Neutral:
Welp, ladies and gentlemen, here we go! (Credits to @TheOrangeGuy09)
Right now, it is accepted that all of the Realms are parallel to Ninjago making them Low 2-C, since per the Universe page, parallel/being shown as bubbles of a similar size makes them same-sized:
However, given that we accept Ninjago as a 5D hypertimeline, this would make all other Realms hypertimelines too, applying the same logic as the Universe page makes for parallelism rule. Additionally, when the story of First Spinjitzu Master creating some of the Realms is told, we see them being a similar-sized disk, which would is a visual depiction of them being similar to each other. Overall. this means that all of other Realms are Low 1-C structures too.
However, given that we accept Ninjago as a 5D hypertimeline, this would make all other Realms hypertimelines too, applying the same logic as the Universe page makes for parallelism rule. Additionally, when the story of First Spinjitzu Master creating some of the Realms is told, we see them being a similar-sized disk, which would is a visual depiction of them being similar to each other. Overall. this means that all of other Realms are Low 1-C structures too.
Layers
In this thread, the layers for Overlord were accepted. However, those layers scale to other people too:
Lloyd Garmadon (The Ultimate Spinjitzu Master)
He should have these in profile:
Purification, Mind Manipulation, Morality Manipulation (2 layers) and Soul Manipulation & Perception Manipulation (1 layer) since he purified the whole Ninjago city, including Ninjas, from Overlord's corruption.
Resistance to Corruption & Mind Manipulation & Morality Manipulation (2 layers) and Madness Manipulation, Soul Manipulation and Perception Manipulation (1 layer) due to being unaffected by Overlord Dragon Form's corruption.
The First Spinjitzu Master
Same as Lloyd due to possessing same power (Golden Power) + fighting Overlord with neither side being able to conquer another.
Overlord
His all keys should have Resistance to Corruption & Mind Manipulation & Morality Manipulation (2 layers) and Madness Manipulation, Soul Manipulation and Perception Manipulation (1 layer) due to being essentially the Evil itself as accepted on his profile. Also, additionally, his Dragon Form was completely unaffected by his own breath, and Golden Master should upscale from other Golden Power users.
Resistance to Power Nullification
Overlord has this:
Power Nullification (His Elemental power don't affected by Vengestone)
However, this is a bad reasoning, as his power is Elemental Essence. The better justification would be: "Darkness, an Elemental Essence, is unaffected by the Vengestone which can nullify Energy, Lloyd's power which is an Elemental Essence"
Also, a couple of others should have Resistance to Power Nullification too:
Garmadon (Reborn/Oni Form)
His Oni powers were unaffected by Vengestone Army. Vengestone was stated to be unable to block Oni's powers.
The First Spinjitzu Master / Lloyd as Ultimate Spinjitzu Master / Overlord as Golden Master
Given that Golden Power is a combination of Oni and Dragon's powers (Creation and Destruction), he should be unaffected by Vengestone the same way as other Oni and Dragon power users, such as Garmadon, Oni Lloyd, or the four original Ninjas do in their Dragon Forms.
Firstbourne (Scales off the Ninjas' Dragon Forms as Golden Power users do)
In this thread, the layers for Overlord were accepted. However, those layers scale to other people too:
Lloyd Garmadon (The Ultimate Spinjitzu Master)
He should have these in profile:
Purification, Mind Manipulation, Morality Manipulation (2 layers) and Soul Manipulation & Perception Manipulation (1 layer) since he purified the whole Ninjago city, including Ninjas, from Overlord's corruption.
Resistance to Corruption & Mind Manipulation & Morality Manipulation (2 layers) and Madness Manipulation, Soul Manipulation and Perception Manipulation (1 layer) due to being unaffected by Overlord Dragon Form's corruption.
The First Spinjitzu Master
Same as Lloyd due to possessing same power (Golden Power) + fighting Overlord with neither side being able to conquer another.
Overlord
His all keys should have Resistance to Corruption & Mind Manipulation & Morality Manipulation (2 layers) and Madness Manipulation, Soul Manipulation and Perception Manipulation (1 layer) due to being essentially the Evil itself as accepted on his profile. Also, additionally, his Dragon Form was completely unaffected by his own breath, and Golden Master should upscale from other Golden Power users.
Resistance to Power Nullification
Overlord has this:
Power Nullification (His Elemental power don't affected by Vengestone)
However, this is a bad reasoning, as his power is Elemental Essence. The better justification would be: "Darkness, an Elemental Essence, is unaffected by the Vengestone which can nullify Energy, Lloyd's power which is an Elemental Essence"
Also, a couple of others should have Resistance to Power Nullification too:
Garmadon (Reborn/Oni Form)
His Oni powers were unaffected by Vengestone Army. Vengestone was stated to be unable to block Oni's powers.
The First Spinjitzu Master / Lloyd as Ultimate Spinjitzu Master / Overlord as Golden Master
Given that Golden Power is a combination of Oni and Dragon's powers (Creation and Destruction), he should be unaffected by Vengestone the same way as other Oni and Dragon power users, such as Garmadon, Oni Lloyd, or the four original Ninjas do in their Dragon Forms.
Firstbourne (Scales off the Ninjas' Dragon Forms as Golden Power users do)
First, let's establish a chain:
Garmadon and Wu can restrain and match each other in LS
The same Garmadon can physically overpower Cole
Anacondrai were later on shown to be able to restrain Cole in strength
The Ninjas, who got stronger after unlocking their Elemental Dragons, can push back the Anacrondrai and match them in strength
Cole was also stated to be able to build/move mountains, and its implied he is that strong physically, giving him Class T rating
Conclusion:
Anyone scaling to the Ninjas in physical strength should get Class T Lifting Strength
Garmadon and Wu can restrain and match each other in LS
The same Garmadon can physically overpower Cole
Anacondrai were later on shown to be able to restrain Cole in strength
The Ninjas, who got stronger after unlocking their Elemental Dragons, can push back the Anacrondrai and match them in strength
Cole was also stated to be able to build/move mountains, and its implied he is that strong physically, giving him Class T rating
Conclusion:
Anyone scaling to the Ninjas in physical strength should get Class T Lifting Strength
Wu should have a few new abilities/Resistances on his profile (here's a sandbox on the matter) which are mostly scaling from what was accepted in the previous thread, which consist of:
Sensei Wu key new abilities
Sensei Wu key new abilities
Sensei Wu key new resistances
Sensei Wu new Key (FS Wu)
Sensei Wu new Key (Dark Island) abilities
Sensei Wu new Key (Dark Island) Resistances
Wu's new AP feats for Dragon Armor Wu, FS Wu and Dark Island Wu respectivelly
Agree: @TheOrangeGuy09 @Woomica @REX9097 @Planck69 @Propellus (Agrees with everything but no commentd on Cosmology Addition) @DarkDragonMedeus
Disagree:
Neutral:
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