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Niko Bellic vs Joel Miller Rematch (0-0-0)

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1,014 days ago, this match was first made. However, the reasoning for Niko winning was flawed. He won due to "having better skill", but that very arguement was disproven a few posts later, yet people still FRAed Niko, giving him the win. Now that Joel has a higher AP than he did back then and has me to help with the discussion, I figured we should redo this match and see if we get the same result or if things turn around for Joel.

Rules:
  • Speed is equal
  • Fight takes place in a post-apocalyse NYC
  • Both start 30 meters away & are nearby plenty of cover
Who Wins?

Niko keeps his win: 0 ()
Joel turns the tables: 0 ()
Neither win: 0 ()
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So before this starts, let me give my thoughts on the skill stuff

Joel has been fighting in the zombie apocalypse for the last 24 years. During those 24 years he was in the zombie apocalypse, he has faught the following:
  • Hordes of dozens of zombies, oftentimes with his bare hands due to how few recources there are
  • Zombies with hyper advanced hearing
  • Dozens of dozens of bandits at once, each one being armed with their own guns
  • The military
  • Dozens of FEDRA soldiers
  • Dozens of Firefly soldiers
  • Scalable to Tommy, who killed dozens, possibly hundreds of WLF soldiers solo, was described as a pro sniper, and killed pretty much everyone in Manny's troup, as well as hit accurate shots from hundreds of meters away and has military experience
  • Likely comparable to the other protagonists of the story such as Ellie & Abby, who both have feats of killing large groups of trained people solo with minimum recources
So pretty much, although Niko has more formal training, Joel's faught plenty of people with formal training and has come out on top, as well as also fighting dozens of people with great skill and came out on top, so I definetly think that there's a point to be made for Joel being comparable in experience
 
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