Niko Bellic vs Joel Miller

[BEASTHEART8800]

Joel:



Niko: 5

This is my very first match. Joel recently defeated Franklin Clinton from GTA V in a very close fight, I felt like this fight would be a lot closer. Who wins & why?


Speed Equal

Fight takes place in apocalyptic liberty city

 

[RisingIons]

Niko gets distracted by cousin Roman asking him if he wants to go bowling and gets shot up

 

[BEASTHEART8800]

LOL This comment brings back memories

 

[BLS]

I'm not familiar with Joel, but Niko has military experience, explosives and self defence CQC, also has been in tons of firefights with gangs and police

 

[Peppersalt43]

I'm not familiar with Joel, but Niko has military experience, explosives and self defence CQC, also has been in tons of firefights with gangs and police

Doesn't Joel have feats against armed bandits?

 

[BEASTHEART8800]

Doesn't Joel have feats against armed bandits?

Yes. Against several gangs, Zombies, Terrorist groups, and the military.

 

[Peppersalt43]

Which should make him at least somewhat equal to Nico in terms of skills

In a close combat situation, both characters have options with Nico having pressure point attacks while Joel has a flamethrower. However in long range, they both have similar options. I don't know who to vote just yet

 

[BEASTHEART8800]

Which should make him at least somewhat equal to Nico in terms of skills

In a close combat situation, both characters have options with Nico having pressure point attacks while Joel has a flamethrower. However in long range, they both have similar options. I don't know who to vote just yet

When it comes to Skills, Niko definitely has the edge in H2H.

 

[aeneax]

Via profiles, Niko seems far more impressive.

 

[BEASTHEART8800]

That a vote for Niko?

 

[DemonicDude]

Niko being a war veteran of Yugoslav/Bosnian Wars prior to the events of GTA IV during which he was in his teenage years this gives him massive experience advantage as well as all the missions/events that took place in GTA IV by standard viewing of both profiles I'll go with Niko unless more arguments are presented.

 

[BEASTHEART8800]

I'd note that this really isn't the case. Joel fought off the US military for over 20 years.

 

[Peppersalt43]

I'd note that this really isn't the case. Joel fought off the US military for over 20 years.

Then again, this was after epidemic, right?

 

[BEASTHEART8800]

I believe so, but that's the Joel we're using, here

 

[Peppersalt43]

I believe so, but that's the Joel we're using, here

No the problem is, wouldn't the military be weakened after dealing with an apocalyptic epidemic?

 

[BEASTHEART8800]

No the problem is, wouldn't the military be weakened after dealing with an apocalyptic epidemic?

? He was fighting them off the first year of it

 

[Peppersalt43]

? He was fighting them off the first year of it

Huh, that's interesting. Fighting the military for 20 years, along with dealing with the infected and groups of hostile survivors is honestly pretty impressive. I don't see how his feats aren't as great as Niko's

 

[BEASTHEART8800]

Yeah. Basically formal training vs guerilla warfare is this match

 

[Peppersalt43]

Bump

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

Niko FRA

and because he has his most powerful weapon

 

[Peppersalt43]

Niko FRA

and because he has his most powerful weapon

Why did you have to remind me of the existence of such videos

 

[BEASTHEART8800]

Those were the days. Any1 remember that playground?

 

[Colonel_Krukov]

Niko has the better skills and experience imho. Voting Niko

 

[Peppersalt43]

You know what, fine

Nico FRA

 

[Peppersalt43]

Bump

 

[Peppersalt43]

Bump

 

[Peppersalt43]

Bump

 

[Peppersalt43]

Bump

 

[Waka1979]

Niko fra

 

[Peppersalt43]

So uh... One more vote, right?

 

[Colonel_Krukov]

7 is needed, yes

 

[Peppersalt43]

Well in that case, we only need one more vote to grace!

 

[CBslayeR]

Niko FRA

 

[Scottycj256]

Niko FRA

 

[EliminatorVenom]

Niko should win this, from what I've played and seen from both games.

Joel is experienced and skilled, that is undeniable. However, his feats, in both practice (Execution in-game, when you see him moving, shooting, taking cover, doing tactical maneuvers) and in theory (Putting raw stuff he fought against v.s. what Niko has faced) are simply less impressive.

Joel has 20-ish years of experience mostly fighting bandits (who are battle hardened, don't get me wrong) and infected, with squabbles against military happening every once in a while. Niko has fought in the Yugoslav wars since he was a teen, and since then, has continously faced the criminal underworld of the GTA world, actually being the protagonist who faced the most battle-tested foes. (Many of the villains in GTA IV are experienced soldiers who have notedly survived some incredibly tough situations) I could explain in detail why I think that puts Niko above, but I'm sleepy, so just to sum things up: Joel is closely matched with him in mentality and, heck, even in aim. But Niko has far more formal training, and his experience as a soldier and criminal both grant him an edge in tactics and in fighting much like how Joel does.

And in a practical sense, when comparing how they move in each game, how they fight in both unarmed and armed scenarios and everything... Yeah, Niko is far more polished and nimbler.

 

[Peppersalt43]

Grace has been over for a while now. This can be added

 

[CBslayeR]

Do it, NOW