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New Energy Scale...

SchutzenDunkelZiel1217

VS Battles
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Well I wanted to ask for some opinions on this...

Destructive Capacity (DC)
Destructive Capacity is the term used to determine the amount of damage a character can produce. It is normally the deciding factor of VS matches along with Speed. It is measured in units of energy.

Attack Potency
An alternative word for Destructive Capacity which has more direct meaning. It literally means the amount of DC an attack can produce or is comparable to.

A character with a certain degree of attack potency can not necessarily cause destructive feats on that level, but can cause damage to characters that can withstand such forces.

Information
If you wish to know the equivalent prefix for a particular exponential value, please see this page.

A Foe is a unit used to measure the energy released by a supernova, and is equivalent to 1044 Joules.

Attack Potency Chart

Tier Level Energy in Joules Energy in Tonnes
of TNT Equivalent
Energy in
Conventional Terms
Ratio of
High End to Low End
9-C Street Level 102 to 1.8x1032.39x10-8 to 4.3x10-7100 Joules to
1.8 Kilojoules
18x
High 9-C Street Level+ 1.8x103 to 5x1034.3x10-7 to 1.195x10-61.8 Kilojoules
to 5 Kilojoules
2.78x
9-B Wall Level 5x103 to 4.184x1061.195x10-6 to 10-35 Kilojoules
to 0.001 Tons
836.8x
High 9-B Wall Level+ 4.184x106 to 2.092x10710-3 to 5x10-30.001 Tons
to 0.005 Tons
5x
9-A Small Building Level 2.092x107 to 2.092x1085x10-3 to 5x10-20.005 Tons
to 0.05 Tons
10x
High 9-A Small Building Level+ 2.092x108 to 1.046x1095x10-2 to 2.5x10-10.05 Tons
to 0.25 Tons
5x
8-C Building Level 1.046x109 to 8.368x1092.5x10-1 to 2 0.25 Tons
to 2 Ton
8x
High 8-C Large Building Level 8.368x109 to 4.6024x1010 2 to 11 2 Tons to 11 Tons 5.5x
8-B City Block Level 4.6024x1010 to 9.2048x101011 to 22 11 Tons to 22 Tons 2X
8-A Multi-City Block Level 9.2048x1010 to 9.2048x101122 to 220 22 Tons to
220
10x
High 8-A Multi-City Block Level+ 9.2048x1011 to 4.184x1012220 to 103220 Tons to
1 Kiloton
~4.54x
Low 7-C Small Town Level 4.184x1012 to 2.42672x1013103 to 5.8x1031 Kiloton to
5.8 Kilotons
5.8x
7-C Town Level 2.42672x1013 to 4.184x10145.8x103 to 1055.8 Kilotons to
100 Kilotons
~17.24x
High 7-C Large Town Level 4.184x1014 to 4.184x1015105 to 106100 Kilotons
to 1 Megaton
10x
Low 7-B Small City Level 4.184x1015 to 2.63592x1016106 to 6.3x1061 Megaton to
6.3 Megatons
6.3x
7-B City Level 2.63592x1016 to 4.184x10176.3x106 to 1086.3 Megatons
to 100 Megatons
15.873x
7-A Large City
or Mountain Level
4.184x1017 to 4.184x1018108 to 109100 Megatons
to 1 Gigaton
10x
High 7-A Large Mountain
or Small Island Level
4.184x1018 to 1.79912x1019109 to 4.3x1091 Gigaton to
4.3 Gigatons
4.3x
6-C Island Level 1.79912x1019 to 4.184x10204.3x109 to 10114.3 Gigatons
to 100 Gigatons
10x
High 6-C Large Island Level 4.184x1020 to 4.184x10211011 to 1012100 Gigatons
to 1 Teraton
10x
Low 6-B Small Country Level 4.184x1021 to 2.9288x10221012 to 7x10121 Teraton to
7 Teratons
7x
6-B Country Level 2.9288x1022 to 4.184x10237x1012 to 10147 Teratons
to 100 Teratons
14.2857x
High 6-B Large Country Level 4.184x1023 to 3.17984x10241014 to 7.6x1014100 Teratons
to 760 teratons
7.6x
Low 6-A Small Continent Level 3.17984x1024 to 5.56472x10247.6x1014 to 1.33x1015760 teratons to
1.33 Petatons
1.75x
6-A Continent Level 5.56472x1024 to 4.184x10271.33x1015 to 10181.33 Petatons
to 1 Exaton
751.880x
High 6-A Large or
Multi-Continent Level
4.184x1027 to 1.238464x10291018 to 2.96x10191 Exaton to
29.6 Exatons
29.6x
5-C Moon Level 1.238464x1029 to 1.811672x10302.96x1019 to 4.33x102029.6 Exatons to
433 Exatons
14.628378x
High 5-C Moon Level+/Small Planet Level 1.811672x1030 to 2.393248x10324.33x1020 to 5.72x1022433 Exatons to
57.3 Zettatons
~13.233256x
5-B Planet Level 2.393248x1032 to 2.393248x10335.72x1022 to 2.393248x103357.3 Zettatons
to 573 Zettatons
10x
High 5-B Planet Level+ 2.393248x1033 to 1.12968x10342.393248x1033 to 2.7x1024573 Zettatons to
2.7 Yottatons
4.71x
5-A Large or
Multi-Planet Level
1.12968x1034 to 1.674x10372.7x1024 to 4x10272.7 Yottatons to
4 Ninatons
1481.481
High 5-A Large or
Multi-Planet Level+
1.674x1037 to 1.254x10404x1027 to 2.998x10304 Ninatons
to 2.998 Tenatons
749.5x
Low 4-C Small Star Level 1.254x1040 to 6.276x10412.998x1030 to 1.5x10322.998 Tenatons
to 150 Tenatons
~50x
4-C Star Level 6.276x1041 to 1.464x10421.5x1032 to 3.5x1032150 Tenatons
to 350 Tenatons
2.33x
High 4-C Large Star Level 1.464x1042 to 5.706976x10443.5x1032 to 1.364x1035350 Tenatons
to 5.709 Foe
389.959x
4-B Solar System Level 5.709x1044 to 1.557x10451.364x1035 to 3.722x10355.709 Foe
to 15.573 Foe
~2.7278
High 4-B Solar System Level+ 1.557x1045 to 1.413x10493.722x1035 to 3.377x103915.573 Foe
to 141.3 KiloFoe
~9075x
4-A Multi-Solar System Level 1.413x1049 to 10543.377x1039 to 2.39x1044141.3 KiloFoe
to 10 GigaFoe
~70771
3-C Galaxy Level 1054 to 10582.39x1044 to 2.39x104810 GigaFoe to 100 TeraFoe 10000x
High 3-C Galaxy Level+ 1058 to 10592.39x1048 to 2.39x1049100 TeraFoe to 1 PetaFoe 10x
3-B Multi-Galaxy Level 1059 to 10622.39x1049 to 2.39x10521 PetaFoe to
1 ExaFoe
1000x
High 3-B Multi-Galaxy Level+ 1062 to 10692.39x1052 to 2.39x10591 ExaFoe to 10 YottaFoe 10000000x
3-A Universe Level 1069 to Infinite 2.39x1059 to Infinite 10 YottaFoe to Infinite NA
Notes
Note 1:

The standard for Galaxy level is the GBE of the Milky Way Galaxy.

Note 2:

The upper end for Galaxy Level is the visible mass energy of the Milky Way Galaxy and the upper end for Galaxy Level+ is the total mass-energy of our galaxy, the Milky Way, including dark matter and dark energy.

Note 3:

The high end for Multi-Galaxy Level and low end for Multi-Galaxy Level+ is the total mass-energy of the Virgo Supercluster including dark matter.

Note 4:

The standard for Universe Level is the estimated total mass energy of the Observable Universe.

Note 5: The high end for Solar System Level is the energy required for a spherical blast to reach Pluto when it's at it's furthest away from the sun.

So what do ya guys think... One thing though I was hasty whiles making this so I don't know if the numbers are correct in some cases so I'd appreciate it if ya guys could check it up.
 
Seems interesting, but IDK. I am not the right person to ask about this, considering how bad I am with energy scaling...
 
I'm assuming this is your own version of the revised AP chart, right Ziel?

Is it for this site only though?
 
It may be worth denoting 2-C as 10^71 joules or higher, but only for certain kinds of settings. As I've calculated in a rambling blog post before, an FTL character that can output 10^71 joules can encapsulate the universe in a black hole, and...well, this video explains it better than I can: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNaEBbFbvcY
 
@CrossverseCrisis: Well everything until Galaxy Level will be the same with the one from the main site after the energy scale there gets revised. There will be some differences such as on the main site there won't be many different energy rating between "Level" and "Level+". But yeah you could say that it's my own version of the revised AP chart.

Now is it for this site only. Well no the main site will use a similar system to this petty soon and I'm using it on another one of my wikis.

@The Everlasting: There a difference between "Level" and "Level+" because people tend to use "Level+" for rating certain characters DC where "Level+" doesn't exist. And also cuz the difference between Multi-Planet Level and Small Star level was way too massive IMO without using them.

@Wheelsecond: Hmmmm... I'm guessing you mean creating a kugelblitz (aka a black hole formed from energy) with a schwarzschild radius of 4.3*10^26 m. As far as I remember that was for destroying the observable universe not the true universe whose size we know not of even to this day.

The size of the true universe is unknown and many people have theorized that it may be infinite or so I've heard so the energy required for destroying all the physical matter in the universe would be infinite.

I'm gonna be revising this soon so I'll look into this...
 
Alright so it's been about a month now since Ziel made this. Seeing that he's now inactive due to complications IRL on his end, i'll try to slowly change the old chart to that of the new one here that he made. I will be having assistence from Lord Kavpeny himself if need be.
 
I feel that Solar System (not +) should range from 5.709x1044 to 1.557x1046 joules, not 5.709x1044 to 1.557x1045. Other than that, yeah, seems good as far as I can tell.
 
You sure? Cause now that Tom is not going to be able to help us here with changing the AP, i'll need Kavpeny's help here instead.
 
Well, I'm not entirely sure, it just doesn't make much sense that the Solar System category is so small next to the Solar System+ category, particularly when there are plenty of larger solar systems than ours out there. Pretty much every 4-B character would be "High 4-B", and the point of pointing out high or low to me always seemed to be to show when it was almost to one side or another. You get me?
 
ThePerpetual said:
Well, I'm not entirely sure, it just doesn't make much sense that the Solar System category is so small next to the Solar System+ category, particularly when there are plenty of larger solar systems than ours out there. Pretty much every 4-B character would be "High 4-B", and the point of pointing out high or low to me always seemed to be to show when it was almost to one side or another. You get me?
Yeah i get what your saying.
 
ThePerpetual said:
The same basic idea applies to Star Level and Large Star Level, as well, just saying.
I know, i know. I'll inform everyone when we will change the AP Chart. I still have stuff to do over at VS, so just hang in there for a bit. I also need to discuss with Kav on this since Ziel's not around to do anymore.
 
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