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Did Cal vote for Ness? If he did, we need to wait for the grace period. If not, then this can be added.
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Ness vs Son Goku ~ The Final Redux
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you all ignoring a fondamental factor, can goku even touch Ness before he gets PSIed to death ?
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Speed is equalized
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I mean at this speed closing the 4km gap is nearly instantaneous.
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PSI can't be dodgedTheglassman12 said:
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^How so? Also Ness has to start with it and nothing else.
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That's true, but it's also allowing Ness to get off PSI attack after PSI attack at quadrillions x FTL.Dragonmasterxyz said:
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However speed is equalized, including attack speed. Also DB characters were Quadrillion times FTL far before the ToP. And MUI is much faster than Before.
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Ness for Cal's reasons
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I'm pretty sure my comment made it obvious who I'm voring for fra.
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@lightbuster that was a joke post, that's not an actual vote.
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Same reason as things like Mewtwo's TK or Lucemon's hax. It's a vectorless attack. Unless he's starting with a baseball bat to the face from 4 km away, the psychic kid is gonna use a PSI attack. Btw, PSI Fire and PSI Thunder are smash only.Dragonmasterxyz said:
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@Cal
Where is this stated or implied?
Where is this stated or implied?
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That mental attacks have no vectors?
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Are these all attacks that hit the mind? Last I checked, spark was very visible.
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@Theglassman I meant it as an actual vote as well. Oh well, Goku fra.
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There's no PSI spark...Dragonmasterxyz said:
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Also, honestly what changed from this fight from last fight? This really seems to be a fight that is obviously gonna lead to Goku winning seeing as the last one against a much weaker unmastered UI Goku was inconclusive.
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Said Goku was still assumed to be capable of crippling Ness with one blow.
Also, iirc, Ness' barriers reflect half of the damage back onto Goku so Goku'd still one-shot himself here if it comes to that.
Also, iirc, Ness' barriers reflect half of the damage back onto Goku so Goku'd still one-shot himself here if it comes to that.
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@Cal and UI can just help him dodge those attacks fired back at him. Also how is half of the damage going to one shot Goku??
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Pretty sure Goku can take his own hits. Ness, even with only 50% of the impact, probably wouldn't.
Going for Goku fra and that.
Going for Goku fra and that.
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I actually made a mistake there and was thinking that the attack was like those where Goku'd take the same damage relative to Ness.
Still voting Ness because of statuses that he uses.
Still voting Ness because of statuses that he uses.
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Okay, now I ask. Has Ness' barriers reflected attacks from those considerably stronger than him?
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No. Barriers reduce damage that's still enough to severely damage Ness.
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That seems a bit NLF to say that it reduces the damage from someone stronger than him.
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Er...no it doesn't, as I admitted that the barrier won't provide enough defense to keep Ness from being severely damaged. Not to mention that's...kinda what barriers do, even in real life.
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But we're talking about someone that can One shot Ness, I doubt the barriers are going to last against that, let alone make it not do that much damage.
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You're repeating things that I already agreed with you on...
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Either way, we have
2 for Ness
10 for Goku.
2 for Ness
10 for Goku.
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Goku FRA
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Ness's shields hold up no matter how strong the attack he is hit by, its about time and if a specific effect breaks it (look at the G fight). But even stacking it I think Ness gets one shot. Here's why. I was in the first match between Ness vs Goku, UI Goku one shot a baseline Low 2-C but his shield made sure he wouldn't get one shot before, but now he's so much stronger, not even reducing the Damage by 75% could still one shot Ness. I think Ness can try to get make Goku too numb to more or try to put him to sleep and spam PK Flash but Ness is more likely to get knocked out in the first hit.
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